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  1. Actually never mind, looking at the dead chat here's a link they used for the description of the rule.

    http://mafiawiki.notesmash.org/wiki/Standard_mafia_rules

    Encryption

    For a short time on SA Mafia, it was popular to roleclaim via online encryption software, which would garble the post and make it incomprehensible. Then, after everyone has roleclaimed, everyone would reveal their "keys" which would unlock the roleclaim to the public. This typically was a breaking strategy against the mafia, since their roleclaims would either be falsified in some obvious way (a mafia getting the flavor wrong, or being counterclaimed by a townier player with the same role), or they wouldn't have a fakeclaim altogether (their claim is crude fake). Since it is so unfair to the mafia, encryption is now universally banned. Breadcrumbs can still be done, as can man-made algorithms, but to use an online encryption device is forbidden.

  2. 1 hour ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

    Regarding Shade's penalty, I don't really see what he did wrong. The only reason I didn't engage with his flavor requests was because I didn't know the lore, figured I couldn't just use my own role flavor, and it wouldn't be worth the time to research one because frankly whatever I put out wouldn't reduce the suspicion at all, just as it didn't with Jeod. It wouldn't prove anything. So I just stonewalled. If this were a C&C game or something we're all familiar with, asking for role flavor is pretty natural.

    Here's an example of the rule they're referencing to, and how it can be used to entrap players, and you can't really do anything about it as a player.

    If you're really a vanilla town role then what's the capitalized letter of the first word with a period after it in the role description?

    Welcome! You are Vezol Chalamet, a Light Infantry aligned with House Atreides! As a Light Infantry, you may only offer your input during the Day Phase. You must use your detective skills to find and eliminate the Harkonnen agents!

    Welcome! You are Rhys Ferguson, a Light Infantry aligned with House Atreides! As a Light Infantry, you may only offer your input during the Day Phase. You must use your detective skills to find and eliminate the Harkonnen agents!

    As you can see from the roles I copied over, the only way to know the correct answer is to have access to the full PM itself, and by comparing themselves like this vanilla Town can actually hard clear each other.

    Of course, the GM on the other hand can take steps to prevent this from occurring before the game begins in the first place, and it would only work out like this because every vanilla town player has nearly the exact same role description.

  3. 2 minutes ago, Jeod said:

    You still ended up taking it too far at times. You've played my Open Janitorial games, so you should know the difference between this kind of game and an open setup. Relying on flavor knowledge is not the way to go. It creates unfair advantages and disadvantages, even unintentionally. Take Retaliation for example. As soon as you called attention to the low probability of Cat5's bus driver claim matching up with the Dune flavor, it prevented him from deviating from the end of that tunnel. Instead of considering other possibilities, I imagine his approach changed to "Cat5 is most likely scum, so how?" -- it makes scum's role in the game much more difficult and in many cases pointless.

    Have you considered all of the problems with claiming to be a bus driver to start with? So the only way it could be in this game was if Killing_You had really put it in game, and given it an in flavor justification for the ability like all of the other roles in game?

  4. 3 minutes ago, ChopBam said:

    I noted that your penalty in the pinned message is not in your vote slot, but just tacked on to your name. So I assumed you could still vote, with just an extra out-of-game one tacked on to yourself. Is this not the case? The pinned message would be confusing then.

    What would be the point? It only took one player other than Category 5 to tie the vote against me, and I'm pretty certain the game won't end until Category 5 is lynched. It's a stupid thing to tie at this point of the game, especially with a minority vote count.

  5. Ok, now I know what's happening here. I'll explain it once, and this'll be my entire contribution for the rest of this game, other than voting Category 5.

    To point out something obvious, but since Mafia had a bus driver they knew how to get an easy day one lynch by switching out the targets with a Mafia member. Either Mafia is targeted, and the Town role doesn't know they hit the wrong target and hard accuse them, or the action  is moved from a Mafia player to a Town player instead, and they have to come out and claim what happened if it was a role block, or a Cop does something like think a Mafia role is a Town role instead.

    This is in part, because of how players are eliminated in game, and how it can end during a night phase when mafia can perform the NK, or during a day phase when Town has control of the vote. Mafia want it to end during the night phase, when Town doesn't have control of the kill, and the maximum number of Town players will be alive to be considered for the day lynch.

    @ Louis , Category 5 is going to use his bus driver ability before you can role block him, that means that if he can target himself, you have minuscule odds of being capable of targeting him by targeting whoever Category 5 decides to swap his position with, this is anyone in the entire game including yourself. But he can also simply, not swap with anyone, in which case you have to target him directly. But you don't know that, so you're going to target Category5 and if you're lucky, KY didn't let Category 5 self target.

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