Retaliation Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 We should just throw you all into a ring and let the force sort you out. Then we'll kill the survivor in case the force failed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: Well I summarized Nodlied already, and I do vaguely remember now Voe saying something about intelligence, but do we really think Voe has the gumption to go along with this plan and not do something else Fair, but to "throw me to the wolves" over something that can easily proven given time seems nonsensical. I could even tell you the T2 Force Combat Action for Constitution players if need be, but to the detriment of us in combat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: We should just throw you all into a ring and let the force sort you out. Then we'll kill the survivor in case the force failed. Sounds like a good tactic for a Sith to follow... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: I'm not sure I buy your reason for not learning two powers as not being interested in one of them. Then don't. It's simply how it is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, TheIrishman said: Fair, but to "throw me to the wolves" over something that can easily proven given time seems nonsensical. I could even tell you the T2 Force Combat Action for Constitution players if need be, but to the detriment of us in combat. Which is why I'm not really pushing for this option. If anything, I'd vote you champion because having so many powers should be an advantage, at least against other non-combat builds, rather than for the other reasons, but I don't see a need to do that either. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, TheIrishman said: Fair, but to "throw me to the wolves" over something that can easily proven given time seems nonsensical. I could even tell you the T2 Force Combat Action for Constitution players if need be, but to the detriment of us in combat. You don't need to tell us about abilities, we need to see you actually use them though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Nodlied said: Then don't. It's simply how it is. All I'm saying, and I don't think I'm alone in this, is that your case requires further study 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 What do we believe determines force power effect? Combat and force or knowledge and force? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: All I'm saying, and I don't think I'm alone in this, is that your case requires further study I'm always open for questions. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Anyway, is anyone other than Retaliation interested in being champion? I feel like a volunteer champion would be best. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Nodlied said: I'm always open for questions. All in good time, time shall provide us with more material to work with. While I know it's not what anyone would want to hear, sometimes determinations just can't be made D1, but maybe D2 or D3. It's not like I'm actively voting you Sith or anything either 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I just don't know what good having 90 force does if all you can do is meditate and use two wimpy force powers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nodlied Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: All in good time, time shall provide us with more material to work with. While I know it's not what anyone would want to hear, sometimes determinations just can't be made D1, but maybe D2 or D3. It's not like I'm actively voting you Sith or anything either I'm well aware. But I'm willing to help out nontheless. Especially since I'm still a bit confused about the game itself. But, as with all Verti games, I'll catch up in time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: Which is why I'm not really pushing for this option. If anything, I'd vote you champion because having so many powers should be an advantage, at least against other non-combat builds, rather than for the other reasons, but I don't see a need to do that either. You guys keep on saying that it gives me an advantage, but I feel like you guys forgot the point that you can only use ONE force combat action per your attack phase. And Reduce Injury seems to be a lot more useful than the T2 ability I got for now. Just now, Retaliation said: What do we believe determines force power effect? Combat and force or knowledge and force? Combat Force Actions are determined by your Combat Skill - Dexterity, Strength, Constitution, while Night Force Actions are determined by your Knowledge Skill - Intelligence, Charisma, or Wisdom. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, TheIrishman said: You guys keep on saying that it gives me an advantage, but I feel like you guys forgot the point that you can only use ONE force combat action per your attack phase. And Reduce Injury seems to be a lot more useful than the T2 ability I got for now. Combat Force Actions are determined by your Combat Skill - Dexterity, Strength, Constitution, while Night Force Actions are determined by your Knowledge Skill - Intelligence, Charisma, or Wisdom. It says you can only use them once per combat, nothing about once per attack phase doesn't it? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: It says you can only use them once per combat, nothing about once per attack phase doesn't it? Let me go back and reread it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: It says you can only use them once per combat, nothing about once per attack phase doesn't it? Hugh, must have updated the PM, it does say only one per turn now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: I just don't know what good having 90 force does if all you can do is meditate and use two wimpy force powers. I assume that the higher level night force actions will use up more force points when used. Just now, Nodlied said: I'm well aware. But I'm willing to help out nontheless. Especially since I'm still a bit confused about the game itself. But, as with all Verti games, I'll catch up in time. Just don't do anything fishy and you'll be fine. Just now, TheIrishman said: You guys keep on saying that it gives me an advantage, but I feel like you guys forgot the point that you can only use ONE force combat action per your attack phase. And Reduce Injury seems to be a lot more useful than the T2 ability I got for now. Combat Force Actions are determined by your Combat Skill - Dexterity, Strength, Constitution, while Night Force Actions are determined by your Knowledge Skill - Intelligence, Charisma, or Wisdom. If champion you'd also go first, which would probably tip the balance quite a bit as well. But again, this is theoretical. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nodlied said: Especially since I'm still a bit confused about the game itself. But, as with all Verti games, I'll catch up in time. Same here. Until I get a better grasp of the game mechanics I'll be here using my handy dandy holo-pad. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 It does seem unlikely that you'd get a chance to use all three force abilities if we did even vote you champion in that case Irish. Only way it'd probably last long enough was if your opponent actually rigged the duel for you. ##Vote Champion Retaliation I'll probably change my champion vote later, but for now I'm not sending Irish into a fight for no reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRAYDO Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Nodlied said: ptions are great. But eh... I'd rather invest my points and time into another strategy. +1 for the quality HOI IV meme. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIrishman Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said: If champion you'd also go first, which would probably tip the balance quite a bit as well. But again, this is theoretical. Maybe if I were a Strength or Dexterity build, but my Force Powers are basically defensive. I might still be up for it if I had the Wisdom attribute since it's the most combat oriented (from the description), but I have Intelligence. Anyway, brb, got Microsoft Office back so I'll be building a table. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I did figure out a scenario where 10 FP would make a difference. It's a bad scenario, but it exists I guess. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 ##Vote Champion Relatiation for now. I might change if there are more volunteers later. ##Vote Sith Jeod 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 I do not believe anything Jeod has done warrants a Sith vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: I do not believe anything Jeod has done warrants a Sith vote. I can see how it would rub some the wrong way, but again, it's just how he is. Shade and Jeod are actually very, very similar. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, OrangeP47 said: I can see how it would rub some the wrong way, but again, it's just how he is. Shade and Jeod are actually very, very similar. Are you certain, one of us hasn't actually voted the other as a Sith yet, and I personally think Jeod is innocent given how similiar his behavior is to the last game I played with him. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunflower Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 My reasons are 1) He started the wave of challenges in D0 which prevented us from having a vote. 2) He advocated for the idea that Jedi learning dark powers isn't dangerous 3) He voted sith for a what I think is a completely ridiculous reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrangeP47 Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: Are you certain, one of us hasn't actually voted the other as a Sith yet, and I personally think Jeod is innocent given how similiar his behavior is to the last game I played with him. Small details in the grand scheme of things 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeod Posted January 21, 2018 Report Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just now, Sunflower said: My reasons are 1) He started the wave of challenges in D0 which prevented us from having a vote. 2) He advocated for the idea that Jedi learning dark powers isn't dangerous 3) He voted sith for a what I think is a completely ridiculous reason. When did I advocate that ##follow isn’t dangerous? My theory about FBIrelies on it being bad for town. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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