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  1. The point is that Nod's ideology drifred heavily from being mostly secular nationalism (with religion mostly respected as "part of national tradition, but however with Kane already in a de facto position of prophet to be obeyed ("from God to Kane") that opposed UN's and GDI's vision of globalized world to religious fanatism exactly in C&C2 Tiberian Sun. It was in Tiberian Sun, where Nod's ideology delivered promises of divination, that was once political slogans (like "Peace through power") became religious mantras and Kane's being referenced as "the Messiah". C&C3 had us see this tendency to develop even further - Kane aknowledged formally to be "prophet" and a fanatical wing of followers developing in the Brotherhood
  2. Well, the manual do confirm that Brotherhood of Nod's minigunner are indeed armed with M16 rifles, while GDI's weapon of choice is something called the "GAU-3 "Eliminator" chaingun", chambered in 5,56mm. Well, Calico M951 (even more likely - Calico M951S - civilian semi-auto version) ( like this one - http://cdn2.armslist.com/sites/armslist/uploads/posts/2012/12/07/703974_01_calico_m951_preban_9mm_carbine_640.jpg) was in fact used in the cutscenes at least few times. However, videogame budgets were significantly lower then (mid 1990s) compared to tens of millions USD that could be invested into an prime-grade videogame nowadays - so it would not be far fetched to assume that the devs of Tiberian Dawn simply "made do" with a single Calico SMG (only one Calico at a time per every cutscenes it is shown) and several Beretta 92 pistols.
  3. Of course yes) If we "stick to realism" that would rather be M-16/CAR-15/M-4 for Americans and AKS-74 for Russians. That's was it was standard infantry service rifles for that time period in reality. As for the "minigunner" well, the thing is than the manual didn't ever stated they were using miniguns at all. GDI troops were stated to use "GAU-3 chainguns", chambered in 5,56mm (chaingun isn't necessary a multi-barreled weapon at all) and Nod troops were stated to use M-16 automatic rifles. And if we use realism approach my guess is that GAU-3 could in fact be an XM-8, just entering service at the time.
  4. OOC: No "edit post option", so the only option to update is to post a new reply. Think, that it is better to dispense wwith AR-70 and add a GAU-3 since the latter mentioned in Tiberium Wars (C&C3) Again, my guess on weapons might have been used in TW. Assertions are based on contries alleigence as the onset of war as per http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/cnc/images/2/2f/Stronghold-gdi.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130331174135 and http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/cnc/images/a/a1/Gdilandsinestonia.png/revision/latest?cb=20130411145007 (the following is my guess only, not EA-approved official canon) So we get the following: 1) "Minigunner" 1a) GDI As for start of the war they have a mixture of assault rifles, supplied by the GDI-aligned countries seconding their troops to GDI command service. 5,56x45mm ammo set as standard for assault rifle ammo. These may include Colt M4A1, Enfield L85A2, H&K G-36, Steyr AGU and Kalashnikov AK-101/AK-102. As GDI is turned into a more unified force with it's own supply chains, under GDI's Council decree the H&K XM-8 variand is adopted as GAU-3 "Eliminator" assault rifle to become GDI's standard service rifle. Rifle is again chambered in 5,56x45mm These are supplemented with FN Mk.48 Mod.1 LMG (chambered in 7.62x51mm) as squad-level support weapon and H&K USP 9mm pistol as backup sidearm. Note of interest: The ultimate irony with GAU-3 "Eliminator" was that GDI have stockpiled lots of GAU-3 rifles until it was phased out of service in favor of M-16 Mk.2 pulse rifle shortly before the Second Tiberium War. The rifles were stored in military depots, that were abandoned and put in conservation as part of GDI Council's defense budget cuts after Second Tiberium Wars. After GDI Military left, the depots were captured by Nod, and GAU-3 rifles stored within were used to arm some of the Nod's own volunteer militants forces, so the rifle seen action as late as Third Tiberium War. 1b) Nod Considerable part of the armouries consist of requisited (from Nod-aligned countries armouries) Warsaw Pact (and their immediate successors) armaments, consisting of 7,62x39mm Kalashnikov AKM/AKMS (and their close clones), however, these "stop-gap" weapons are gradually replaced with Norinco CQ (an M-16 close clone), chambered in 5,56x45mm, as a Brotherhood armies' standard service rifle. Captured arms are also used willingly. These are supplemented with Zastava M84 and Vector SS-77 7,62mm machineguns as SAWs and Beretta M92FS handguns as backup sidearms. 2) "Grenadiers" These guys probably get an Armscore MGL-6 grenade launcher and a H&K USP 9mm sidearm for self-defense. 3) "Engineers" These are specialists, generally not meant for direct frontline combat. As such they are equipped with a sidearm (USP for GDI and Beretta-92 for Nod), but may be equipped with assault rifles if need arise. 4) "Flamethrowerers" Typically armed with an LPO-50 flamethrower and Beretta M92FS pistol as backup firearm. 5) "Commando" 5a) GDI Outfit is mission-specific, but may include Accuracy International AWM .338 cal sniper rifles for long-range engagement, H&K MP7 PDW for close-range and as back-up firearms, and C4 timed/radio-controlled explosive charges. 5b) Nod Outfit is mission-specific, but may include Izhmash SV-98 .338 cal sniper rifles for long-range engagement, B&T MP9 SMG for close-range and as back-up firearms, and C4 timed/radio-controlled explosive charges. 6) "Rocket soldier" Armament most likely considered of a 9mm pistol (H&K USP for GDI and Beretta 92FS for Nod) for self-defense and a Rafael Mini-Spike shoulder-mounted missile launcher, capable of shooting both anti-tank HEAT rockets and short-range surface-to-air heat-seeking missiles. 7) "Chem warrior" Some sort of tiberium-based chem sprayer, shooting tiberium-based toxin via compressed air. NB: During the First Tiberium War existence of chem warriors was officially denied by Nod Brotherhood's Inner Circle (becouse of toxin usage violation the UN's chemical weapons prohibition convention) and in case of capture Nod's Public Relation division was quick to disown such soldiers, denying any connection with the Brotherhood.
  5. As an update - here is Nod soldier brandishing an M-16 (or it's clone) assault rifle in early stages of 2-nd Tiberium War (oddly, the rifle seem not loaded) So, my guess on weapons might have been used in TW. Assertions are based on contries alleigence as the onset of war as per http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/cnc/images/2/2f/Stronghold-gdi.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20130331174135 and http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/cnc/images/a/a1/Gdilandsinestonia.png/revision/latest?cb=20130411145007 (the following is my guess only, not EA-approved official canon) So we get the following: 1) "Minigunner" 1a) GDI As for start of the war they have a mixture of assault rifles, supplied by the GDI-aligned countries seconding their troops to GDI command service. 5,56x45mm ammo set as standard for assault rifle ammo. These may include Colt M4A1, Enfield L85A2, H&K G-36, Steyr AGU and Kalashnikov AK-101/AK-102. As GDI is turned into a more unified force with it's own supply chains the standard ammunition is changed to 6,5x39mm Grendel and a variant of H&K XM-8 is adopted as AR-70 "Raptor" assault rifle to become GDI's standard service rifle. These are supplemented with FN Mk.48 Mod.1 LMG (chambered in 7.62x51mm) as squad-level support weapon and H&K USP 9mm pistol as backup sidearm. 1b) Nod Considerable part of the armouries consist of requisited (from Nod-aligned countries armouries) Warsaw Pact (and their immediate successors) armaments, consisting of 7,62x39mm Kalashnikov AKM/AKMS (and their close clones), however, these "stop-gap" weapons are gradually replaced with Norinco CQ (an M-16 close clone), chambered in 5,56x45mm, as a Brotherhood armies' standard service rifle. Captured arms are also used willingly. These are supplemented with Zastava M84 7,62mm machineguns as SAWs and Beretta M92FS handguns as backup sidearms. 2) "Grenadiers" These guys probably get an Armscore MGL-6 grenade launcher and a sidearm for self-defense. 3) "Engineers" These are specialists, generally not meant for direct frontline combat. As such they are equipped with a sidearm (USP for GDI and Beretta-92 for Nod), but may be equipped with an assault rifle if need arise. 4) "Flamethrowerers" Typically armed with an LPO-50 flamethrower and Beretta M92FS pistol as backup firarm. 5) "Commando" 5a) GDI Outfit is mission-specific, but may include Barret M99 short pattern .50 cal sniper rifles for long-range engagement, H&K MP7 PDW for close-range and as back-up firearms, and C4 timed/radio-controlled explosive charges. 5b) Nod Outfit is mission-specific, but may include PGM Hecate short pattern .50 cal sniper rifles for long-range engagement, B&T MP9 SMG for close-range and as back-up firearms, and C4 timed/radio-controlled explosive charges. 6) "Rocket soldier" Armament most likely considered of a pistol for self-defense and a yet fictional shoulder-carried rocket launcher, capable of shooting both anti-tank HEAT rockets and anti-air heat-seeking missiles. 7) "Chem warrior" Some sort of tiberium-based chem sprayer
  6. Well, if we consider the information provided canincally - we have GDI's minigunners using fictional light machineguns known as "GAU-3 Eliminator" chaingun" chambered in 5,56mm, and Nod's minigunners using 5,56mm M-16 automatic rifles. That's what official canon says. As for me, I would stick to the following for the "minigunners" GDI - most probably a mixture of Colt M4A1s, Enfield L85s, IMI Galil AR/ARM, Steyr AUGs, H&K G36s and Izhmash AK-101/102s. All in standartized 5,56x45mm. Later that mixture got gradually replaced with H&K XM-8s (that receiving the GDI's designation as AR-70) in variants chambered for 6,5mm Grendel. Nod - probably again a mixture of old ex-Warsaw Pact armourys featuring AKM/AKMs and their immidiate varieties (like AMD-65 or PM-63) most likely in 7,62x39mm, Norinco CQs (that's Chinese copy of Colt M16A2) in 5,56x45mm. CQ latter becoming Nod's golden standard with it's variants seen in action as late as Second Tiberium War.
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