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By the way, Jeod is pretty sure he will have enough Trust today. Unless there are several of you who will help him, I doubt this is true. But make sure you focus your trust on to one person. -
I'm pretty sure Killing_You gave me 2000 suspicion to keep me locked up. Don't take my word for it. It's simple to go back and check the CVC. That's where the proof is.
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How would it be hard to guess his role when people were openly talking about him being the least likely to be corrupted by opening the book? After watching the show, Light's father was the first to come to mind. And no, I haven't met with anybody all game, and the only actions I've seen are the book being handed to me, me passing the book away, me stealing Jeod's trust, I've called Light like four times, and my proposal is locked today.
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I think it's been pretty heavily implied that he is Light's father.
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I think I know what his role is, yes. Do I know it? No.
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So Mojoman was investigated yesterday and it didn't matter, and Jeod pushed for Orange and lost. If I consider that Nodlied and Chaos are obviously working against Jeod, then my only two remaining targets are Killing_You and ChopBam. Between the two, I am much more suspicious of Killing_You, who I did note was plenty willing to follow every argument I made as if it didn't matter which one took traction. That is typical K_Y play, though.
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Wait, nevermind. For some reason I got it in my head that Nodlied had been investigated and role revealed.
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If Nodlied and ChopBam are more important than you, why would you be next on the chopping block?
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I find it hard to believe you didn't notice almost getting investigated yesterday. Though I also notice that Jeod voted for you as well...that's certainly something I need to think about.
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Did I not spend most of the last day wondering why nobody else got roleblocked and pointing out you could have been faking your claims? This isn't a sudden reversal. What has changed is the circumstances. Before you looked pretty innocent, and then the lack of others suffering from your problems sticks out as suspicious. And you haven't been responding to my attacks very well. You just tried to explain away my argument as if it wasn't logical for me to find that suspect, and then flip the same accusation on to me without even blinking that you just called the same reasoning illogical.
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The other thing you're doing right now that has me very interested, is that you're approaching all your arguments from scum-perspective. Why is the fact that I'm playing town-sided an issue to you? Why are you worried about point-locking being a tipoff to the victim?
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Can't decide between defending yourself and deflecting suspicion to me, can ya?
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Having a discussion about something nobody can prove happened, is not proof! And you know this because you just tried to suggest that I'm doing the same thing!
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How does a discussion in a google doc prove that you did what you say you did? That isn't proof of anything. You could still tell Voe in advance that you were going to do an investigation and then "do" it, and tell Voe the "result". How could Voe tell whether you did it or not?
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I wasn't specifically talking to you, Killing_You, but it does apply. If any of you think you have aces up your sleeves through your discussions with each other, the time to use them is now.
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First, about ChopBam, no, that isn't what I mean. I'm saying you could pretend to do an investigation, declare out loud that he is clear as a "result" of it, meanwhile do something else. ChopBam would not have to be on your team for this, and indeed it might work better if he wasn't as you'd get townie cred from him, and even more if ChopBam does indeed turn out to be town. The only way you could lose in this scenario is if ChopBam was actually anti-town and also anti-whateveryouare, because he'd know that your investigation was fake and could use that against you. That doesn't seem likely, now does it? I just used a point-draining action and it doesn't roleblock. I don't think points have anything to do with it. You are still the only person who has ever been roleblocked, and you've claimed two variants of it.
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Anything about these conversations you've been having should be just coming out now. Just turn over the bucket and spill it all over the thread. We're looking at a potential end game here. There is no point for secrets at this stage.
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Well, to be frank, if you were in a position where you already knew ChopBam's alignment and knew you'd be "roleblocked", then you could claim everything you just said and nobody could prove otherwise. It all seems too perfect to me.
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Nodlied, Chaos_Knight, and myself have been actively working against Jeod and can prove our actions. What about them?
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If not them, who? And why don't you suspect them? We've just witnessed two days of Mojoman working in Jeod's favor. OrangeP47 had L powers when the notebook went missing and also when instructions were written in it. Killing_You hasn't told us anything about any thing he has done this game, as best as I can remember.
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Given that you just used "us" and not "you", you've just inferred that you have touched a Death Note. This was not known before. What defense do you have for yourself?
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I don't understand how Jeod can win the game tonight. Neither L nor Light can meet their win conditions as best as I can tell. This implies that Jeod has his own endgame. There are only two ways I can see to move forward here. 1) Investigate Jeod: You know every time VERTi60 cheats his own game to help scum, the only way to win is to investigate the guy we think we can't investigate. Because, you know. That's fair. It seems like he is the one using the books, and according to my theory several of us should see him, so I think we can. However, would putting him under investigation really do anything though? How can you confiscate from or confine someone who isn't restricted by walls? 2) Investigate his accomplice: If we really think investigating Jeod won't do anything, the only way I imagine that we could stop a loss now is if there is a Kira holding a notebook right now and we can investigate him, take his notebook, and hope that is enough to fulfill L's win conditions. I don't understand how that would work, since I don't know how anyone can stop a shittygami from doing anything he wants. This theory would mostly rely on the idea that Jeod is bluffing about VERTi60 breaking his own game rules, and he's actually covering for someone else as they use the notebook in his stead. Is this person Mojoman? OrangeP47? Killing_You?
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No, it probably means that if we don't investigate the correct person today, we lose. (Or some other day/night action that I don't know about might prevent game end)
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I'm the next one dead. My substantial proposal is locked, so it will be going to someone today and then I'm probably dead tonight. Most likely Jeod will receive all my points as trust. Keep that in mind as apparently his goals require the L abilities for some reason, else there would be no point in doing this. I stole his trust last night. Why does he still have some?
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So that is the one confiscated from Voe, and that notebook was used? I don't remember reading that it was used before. Anyway, listing everything there led me to believe it was confiscated from Mojoman.