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Guest Gurgle
That's steam coming out of a nuclear powerplant, if it's smoke you should worry.

 

Fission works on the premise that radioactive rods heat water, create vast ammounts of steam, turn turbines, which turn magnets inside dense wire coils which generates an electrical charge.

 

Fusion works on the premise that when two atoms combine (this is true for anything larger than iron 56), they tend to combine into a single nucleus which is smaller in mass than the combination of the original pair, the excess mass is expelled as heat energy, which is then used to heat water, turn turbines..... you get the idea.

 

The thing about fusion is that the isotope used in most designs is a hydrogen isotope and they use lithium to pickup neutrons that fly off randomly....

 

 

Enough of the chemistry lesson, no released steam, go read a degree level chemistry book :D

But why is there no steam? I haven't been enlightened yet :) .

 

Both types of nuclear plants create steam to drive turbines, as you said. A fission plant's steam would be released through a big... ventilator-exhaust-thing. Wouldn't the same hold true for a fusion one?

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Guest Kakashi

The steam coming from the fission reactor is from the rods' cooling system, not from the steam in the turbine cycle (if it were form the turbine cycle the soviets would have to wear radiation protection suits inside their base). Since the fusion reactor wouldn't need such a cooling system there would also be no steamclouds coming out of it.

 

Or that's how I understood it...

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Guest Glaed

Reverse the two water systems in your post Kakashi, and you have it correct. The rods' cooling system comes in contact with the core, and thus is heavily radioactive. The turbine system never comes in contact with the core (depending on the reactor) and thus is not radioactive. However, the Soviet RBMK nuclear reactor (aka the type used at Chernobyl) was different. It used only one water system. It was also one of the most commonly used reactor types during the cold war, IIRC, because it could use normal water (instead of "heavy" water) and normal Uranium like you would find in the ground, so they didn't have to enrich it. However, all this came at the cost of the reactor being a little unstable. Once the reactor started undergoing fission at a certain rate, the heat would increase the reaction, thus increasing the heat, which would increase the reaction... A situation called a Positive Void Coefficient

 

RBMK Reactor Schematic

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the water used within fusion doesnt become radioactive at all, the lithium does however, but then again i dont suggest breathing in lithium either.

 

No the point about fusion is that the heat created forms plasma which is burnt to generate the energy required.

 

Which is where my knowledge ends, how the hell they convert the heat into electricity i really dont know, but the majority of plant designs do not use steam driven turbines (they're really really not efficient).

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Guest Glaed
But why is there no steam? I haven't been enlightened yet :D .

 

Both types of nuclear plants create steam to drive turbines, as you said. A fission plant's steam would be released through a big... ventilator-exhaust-thing. Wouldn't the same hold true for a fusion one?

Neither plant would release the steam very often, if any was used. The steam moves the turbines, then is condensed back into water, where it is run to the reactor and turns back into steam (in fission generators, at least.) The only reason nuclear power plants need those large chimney stacks (IIRC) is to cool the steam, or occasionally to let excess water out of the system. Edited by Glaed
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Guest Xiphias6

Right, maybe it's Geothermal and doesn't have any steam, end.

 

 

The slope looks like you could drive a ranger flak track up it and get stuck :D

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Guest UberEggz

It's Hydrogen NOT geothermal because how the hell can you prdouce geothermal on dead buildings or highways?

(show a picture)

its 20%fossil fuels and 70% hydrogen and 10% fusion

I check messures :D

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Guest Lt Albrecht

WHAT? That makes as much sense as RA3's plot... Seriously.

 

It's an allied power plant working by some soert of reaction involving energy and matter and glowing, the specifics of which we do not need to know. Leave it at that.

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Guest Stormweaver

You guys have it all wrong. Inside there is a prototype chronosphere that teleports energy from 30,000,000,000 years in the future when we can be sure that the sun will overlap the space in which the powerplant exists in RA2's time. It uses this inexhaustible source of heat to create steam and turn epic turbines. This energy is then used to power the mini-chronosphere and the excess powers the allied base.

 

[/explains red glow]

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Guest UberEggz

You guys have it all wrong. Inside there is a prototype chronosphere that teleports energy from 30,000,000,000 years in the future when we can be sure that the sun will overlap the space in which the powerplant exists in RA2's time. It uses this inexhaustible source of heat to create steam and turn epic turbines. This energy is then used to power the mini-chronosphere and the excess powers the allied base.

 

[/explains red glow]

then it's solar n00b :D

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