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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
Playing as if I were Soviet aligned is the best method of survival in my opinion. There's only one scum left and I'm sure about you. If Mojoman is the scum and I die then it's my own fault.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
I don't think so. Chaos and FRAYDO are in a masonry. FRAYDO has yet to confirm it publicly, but Chaos has mentioned that he and FRAYDO are discussing things in a doc. Let's have a look at this from a balance perspective. Killing You was the ground-killing scum, making nightkills as a MRJ. I imagine a MRJ cannot hit air vehicles once they're in the sky. Mojoman is a Soviet Radar Dome, scanning every few nights to see what factions exist in the game. The MRJ would hide the Allied numbers, although I don't get why the third party would be hidden from him. Perhaps because the Molotvs were a hostile faction? The Soviets had a Yak, a MiG, a Spy Plane, and an Airfield. This means either the third party or Allies would need a way to deal with things in the sky. This is where the AA Gun comes into play. The AA Gun would need to shoot during the day before the Airfield was discovered. This makes the town seem a tad OP, right? Since once a masonry is made, the AA Gun can no longer shoot at any of these players without being immediately shot/lynched. This is why there are three third party players and one player that can flip alignments to neutral. It's a balance thing. The Molotovs cannot make nightkills, but they can shoot during the day and provide numbers for a lynch vote. It was a stroke of luck that I found Killing You so quickly, as ChopBam can either only make nightkills on flying targets or cannot make nightkills at all. However, there has to be a hidden mechanic here to allow the scum to win even in this scenario. Chaos is the only flying unit left, and he's outnumbered. We should proceed with open minds on what may happen tonight. From my point of view, this is a done deal. If the rest are agreed, we could try an early hammer today and have Voe attempt to flip ChopBam into neutral alignment. If that doesn't work, well Chaos will have taken off and have a gun to shoot, and FRAYDO can bomb ChopBam to be doubly sure. Crrection: Chaos is the only flying unit left, and ChopBam is outnumbered. CHOPBAM: If we are correct and you are the AA Gun, and the lone scum, then I humbly request for your peaceful surrender. There is no need to prolong this game when we are all but 100% sure you are the AA Gun. However as should be custom, I'll put it to a vote. If other players think you're the AA Gun and the final scum, then they'll vote and, if it's unaminous, Vertigo may ask if you wish to surrender. If you do surrender and you are not the AA Gun, however, then we deal a blow to ourselves as we lost a SAM Site. ##request ChopBam's surrender- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
I wasn't the one to suggest AA Gun as a more likely scenario though. I agreed with Chaos, yet you make your arguments toward me. Are you triggered?- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
AA Gun fits the bill perfectly.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
You did not. FRAYDO did that, and he already told us why. You (and ChopBam assuming he is scum) attempted a hit on Generalcamo, who did not die because he was bulletproof for the night.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
There was no such thing in his role description. The "alternative" thing Generalcamo mentioned was something I wanted to clear with Verti when the game started: that if Generalcamo and I both died, how would Isaac, a building with no shoot capability, possibly win? Verti said that if the situation arose that Isaac would be given an "alternative" way to win; I suspect it would have been something like my ##dismantle ability from the previous game which allowed me to gain nightkills.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
The cargo bit was simply flavor text as far as I know. Our goal was to eliminate all players. A trio of serial killers forced to kill by means of lynching and day shooting, if you will. We were in no way aligned with the Allies, so your radar scan would definitely have picked us up. That can only mean you are not a Radar Dome.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
There is one other thing overlooked here. There was only one nightkill--Isaac--who was bombed by FRAYDO. So who did the Allies try to kill and why? The who is easy. Generalcamo had been upgraded by Isaac the first night. He gained a modifier for his dayshot as well as a bulletproof ability. He was the target last night, and if Voe and I were now a team and had a nightkill ability, I would know this information ahead of time and choose someone else for the kill. The why is more difficult. Mojoman is already a prime suspect. However, he must be shot in order to be killed. That's where we turn to ChopBam for the lynch target. Take a look: You approved the MiG and Airfield claims yesterday. As said, they can confirm eachother. The tricky part is that you were also perfectly okay with being lynched, which makes me concerned that you are a building. There will only be one nightkill tonight though, and with six players in the game, the odds are still stacked against the Allies. Chaos_Knight will take off again tonight, giving him another shot. FRAYDO will bomb Mojoman tonight, ensuring his death. Jeod will scout ChopBam tonight, in case the game continues the next day. Voe will do nothing, as he cannot until N4.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
He said it was a 3 day cool down.- 653 replies
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Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
I do get to scout again tonight.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
Or I called you correctly. FRAYDO and Chaos can confirm each other and it's unlikely there are four mafia. ##vote chopbam Let's see if you really are a building.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
Farewell, friend. To be honest, I did give you a chance. I called you out as a possible third party rather than admit my role. As for why, we have a few veterans here. I catch the sort of oddities you had throughout this game and if I hadn't called you out on them, I'd look suspicious. I feel that I did the best I could to bring them to attention without implicating you. For example, you could have claimed that Isaac was a rogue who randomly gave upgrades. I'd have dueled you over it, sure, but I believe you'd have found a way out had you tried. Those roles are confirmed in my eyes (except the Tech Center) because I was the last of the Molotovs. With Generalcamo's suicide, the third party faction is no more unless Voe decides to flip me back for some reason. When I was turned neutral, I tried my best to control the game so as to keep the Molotovs in play. I suspected that if Voe could flip me back to 3p, then perhaps Isaac could as well by giving me an upgrade. When Isaac died, all hope was lost. Mojoman must be the final scum in this game. Everyone else checks out with the claims except for ChopBam, since we have no enemy air units. Coincidentally, ChopBam is also the one to begin leading the charge on me. Let me be clear. Voe and I are harmless and our win conditions are to simply survive to the end of the game. If we must team with Mojoman to survive, then so be it. I cannot speak for Voe, but at this point I for one would prefer a Soviet victory.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
Ah, but there is the matter of Isaac being a Cybernetics Center and you receiving certain aspects of a role in exchange for other aspects, when your role should logically have them all to begin with.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
(This one's for you Category 5) Let's recap what we know: Category 5 Hurricane turned out to be a Soviet Spy Plane. His goal was to find the Airfield and claimed to have a weakness. The Airfield is a prerequisite for the Spy Plane, meaning that a Spy Plane must know the Airfield exists before being able to take action, and may also die if the Airfield dies. Chaos Knight claims to be the Soviet MiG. The MiG has a 50/50 chance with #shoot, which makes it as believable as the Allied Spy. Nodlied was the Soviet Yak. He didn't get to do anything. Isaac The Madd was a Third Party Building, which the Airfield can bomb. FRAYDO is the Soviet Airfield. This can be confirmed by attempting to lynch him, but it's not necessary. His role is confirmed by the above four. Mojoman is the Allied Tech Center. His references to Day 4 are most likely referring to the GPS that the Tech Center launches. I have no idea what this will do for him, but a safe bet would be it reveals all roles to him. Voe is a Neutral Forklift. This is evidenced by my new alignment but is further evidenced by his and my own openness about ourselves. If he were dangerous to us (i.e. like a real cult), he and I would have had a shared google doc and we would not have talked openly about what happened to us. Jeod was the Soviet Sniper who was flipped Neutral. This is confirmed by my scout of Killing You, the Allied MRJ. ChopBam is unconfirmed. The SAM Site role doesn't fit given that we haven't seen an Allied air unit yet. My current suspicion is that he is Allied Aligned. ...which leads us to our final player. Generalcamo claimed to be a Mammoth Tank with beefed up weaponry and vehicle destroyer (which should be a given for a Mammoth in the first place). The placement of the lines in the way he described his PM is not how Vertigo writes them. Finally, General said he lost his BP in exchange for vehicle destroyer, which doesn't make any sense since he's a Mammoth Tank. He also has not been open about who he has protected etc save Mojoman the first night. I'm pegging him as Third Party along with Isaac The Madd, who likely gave him some upgrades. Here's our priorities for the day: Shoot Mojoman or ChopBam Lynch Generalcamo Any questions?- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
Belay that. I'm off in a few minutes. Shoot Mojoman and nobody but Mojoman.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
Good point. Voe may be able to flip Mojoman. ##unvote We can try it, but only after all shots are made. I doubt a forklift can flip a building. Back to FRAYDO. Vertigo, his actions and lack thereof are tantamount to game throwing. You obviously know more than we do at this point, so I trust your judgement.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
I correctly guessed Cat5's claim as Spy Plane but did not believe it because FRAYDO did not come out to confirm it. FRAYDO also did not bomb the known scum, which means he is not paying attention to the game or he is the one who bombed Isaac.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
You confirmed FRAYDO? Good. I have some choice words for him for allowing Cat5 to go unconfirmed. Cat5 probably does as well, too bad FRAYDO won't see the dead doc. Anyone have a loaded gun for Mojoman? ##vote Voe More when I get off work. Till then I'm sticking with my original plan.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
What the heck is a Cybernetic Enhancement Center?- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
I'm nominating Voe for the lynch tomorrow, seeing as we can't lynch Mojoman.- 653 replies
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Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
RIP Cat5, should have played for the team and not for yourself. Welp, time to sleep till the next day seeing as I have no actions to take. I'll kick a chair if FRAYDO is the Airstrip and could have saved Cat5 had he been active.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
If Cat5 is a Longbow there may not be an Airstrip in the game.- 653 replies
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Event [Game End] RA:APB-themed Mafia game IV (Staplerfahrer Edition)
Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
Yeah I've got alarm bells going off here. Since there's an Allied building in the game there must be an Airstrip or some way to rearm our weapons to shoot him. If anyone has a way of rearming infantry (unlikely), give me another Sniper round tonight and I'll try to pop him in the morning.- 653 replies
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Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
I'm probably the only one able to post and respond so often because I work at home.- 653 replies
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Jeod replied to VERTi60's topic in Forum Games
No matter who is lynched today I'd still like Chaos to try and shoot Mojoman. Re: neutral win condition, yes the neutral goal is to survive. If Cat5 isn't lynched or shot before Voe can flip his alignment, then Voe should flip his alignment.- 653 replies
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