OrangeP47

The simple fact of the matter is Chop couldn't have willingly targeted Sunflower. If you refuse to believe then the loss is on you

I've presented tons of facts, you just seem to ignore them

Unfortunately, I don't think, if that happens, it'll happen in time for today's lynch

Yeah, it's possible. I don't think Cat 5 would *suddenly* become a jester. There's more than meets the eye. I only hope we didn't play into some kind of trap or bad effect by indulging him.

See, it's not a fair fight though, because KY used his shot on Cat 5

You sometimes can't get 100% proof in games like these. The way I see it, if actions and words were armor, he's left standing in a chainmail bikini He doesn't have much to cover himself with.

I'd want to shoot and lynch you regardless of my alignment, regardless of what game we're playing

I mean, there are other reasons to be suspicious of Chopbam. We can't verify anything of what he did. Not quite as bad as Nodlied's "I did nothing", but still. On the other hand, with me, you have Sunflower verifying me last night, KY the night before, Nodlied the night before that, and Jeod was on my side. Plus I've been more than forthcoming about my role, I protected the cop/vig, etc. From my point of view, my CV is rather impresses, vs not even qualified for fast food Chopbam.

Maybe it's getting lost in translation, but the semantics are very important. I am the one who's cursed. Jeod too. When you visit us, you don't GET the curse, you get affected by it. That's a critical difference. If it helps, and I know you'll at least get a laugh out of it, think of it as BO. It makes everyone around you cringe, but it's not contagious.

I don't think Sunflower got the curse (it's not communicable, it's only temporary due to exposure usually). I think she was just worried because we were talking about it so much, what with Jeod's killer having come into contact with it.

Something just hit me. Chopbam visited Jeod, who had my passive, meaning his target should have been randomized. Therefore, even if he chose to visit Sunflower this night, he should have been scrambled and hit someone else. However, he's acting like he actually did successfully target her, on purpose. I don't buy that. He's hiding something or lying. ##vote Chopbam

Linked again then, it's near the beginning:

It was in that audio-diary I linked.

Did you not hear of the guy who chewed his own arm off and is now living under the floorboards?

When the situation is hopeless, busing is just natural. Honestly I don't see why people have such an aversion to it, especially on this site.

TBH I've considered that as well, though not heavily. Something has to be going on to counteract the fact we didn't get public flips.

Actually on second reading it doesn't actually say that, but it does say at GM's decision, so the point that neutral could be guilty still stands.

The wiki says the standard guilty/not-guilty cop only reports town as not-guilty. So therefore as neutral I'd be guilty. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Cop

Neutral being guilty is a possibility. Again, "guilty of what?" is a good question, and it doesn't seem like even KY has the answer.

Nodlied was blocked on a night with no nightkill, then he claimed to do "nothing" the next night, a half-assed cover for when he could have easily done the night kill. Plus, he claims neutral when I'm already neutral, making the claim that neutral is overly packed in a setup such as this. I feel like I have the chops to back myself up too, given I'm one of the most confirmed players in the game.

If anything, it's higher, 95 to 100%.

As I've said, I wanted to take care of the curse on Sunflower, and thought she was worthy of the gift, which she has confirmed to receive.

Crap, just realized, we completely forgot to get any useful info out of Cat 5 about Jeod, such as confirming my passive...

Technically I think I have to live, though, so I'd kinda appreciate if we don't

I'm going to finish enjoying my dinner, maybe take a nap because I've had too much caffeine today, and then reflect on life.