Voe

Of course, I better sit here "confused" and "unsure", never voicing a strong opinion, and let scum "think" whole day and then push an arbitrary lynch (eg on killing_you) 4 hours before hammer. Not a fat chance in hell I'm letting you win this game. You see, I have proof for what I'm accusing you of. I bring it up again and again. You have nothing. All you do is question my every word, and never even bother trying to come up with something beneficial to town. Jeod at least is trying.

I'm not selectively ignorant. You're tripping on your own legs, post after post after post, and then you accuse me of ignorance.

Good job GenCam. Spilling beans there maybe? @Chaos - indeed, you're hard to read. But you did nothing this game to rise my suspicion. You didn't bandwagon (like choppy), or rolefish (like jeod), or actively build a case for a unanimous lynch today. You also did not attempt an active defence of any of the players or reinforce their opinions. It may sound a little sad, but it looks like if you don't have any friends this game. Which is expected of town, but not of scum.

Chaos, you're my last hope of preventing a huge mistake. I'm going out. Should be back before hammer. Alstar, you too. I don't know if you're town or the SK, but i believe in your better judgement.

But we should. ChopBam had a "good feeling" about you even on day one, justifying it by "jeod plays the same scum and town". How does it prove you're town then? And If he really did believe it, why would he investigate you out of all people? Cat5 was suspicious of ChopBam. ChopBam wanted and still softly supports nolynch. ChopBam doesn't want cops to come out. ChopBam doesn't hard claim, we don't even know what kind of cop he claims to be. ChopBam and you go hand in hand the whole game. Jeod, you do realise that scum can buy the loyalty of literally anyone by saying they're town? Scum KNOWS that everyone aside of them is town. (Aside from SK, of course, but if i was SK and someone came out openly claiming I'm town, I'd be very happy with that statement.) And lastly, he catches every chance of a bandwagon. Revenge voting? Vote the revenge voter. Possible SK? Vote the possible SK. Lynch FRAYDO? Sure, jump on the wagon. ChopBam. Is. Not. Town.

I agree. I also believe that FRAYDO is mostly guilty by association. With ChopBam. However, you and ChopBam are intertwined a lot more than Fraydo is with either of you. If scum was to bus one of them to salvage the game, it would be one who leaves least connections with the others. That's why I want to lynch ChopBam. He is in the middle of this, and if he flips scum, that will be a direct connection to both Jeod and Fraydo. If fraydo dies, Jeod will still be able to defend himself rather well. ChopBam flipping, on the other hand, is the nail in the coffin. I'm also hoping Nodlied will make it in time to explain his night action.

Not so fast. We still have time left.

Mafia is one leap from victory. They are not the silent players in the background. I respect your vote, Killing_You. If our dynamic doesn't allow us to lynch ChopBam, I am still fine with going after FRAYDO. Scum is scum.

You tell me, mr softclaim cop.

I broke the quote. Sorry.

And why would this be? You've claimed you can't visit people. Not even a PR claim. Because I nailed you.

Uhh, I don't know? According to wiki he might.

What is your endgame, Jeod? I am not the SK. And I know the math. I also hope SK understands the math, and will hit scum if possible. As you accurately stated, hitting town would likely end in scum victory. Assuming we lynch scum today and 2 town are killed tonight, we'll be at 2/1/2, at which point scum almost literally controls the game. Town would need to kill one of the allies, and SK would need to NK the other, without getting blasted himself. Those are bad odds for a lone survivor. So yeah, SK, try to kill scum tonight. @Alstar, when number of scum is equal to the number of town (eg 3:3), scum wins immediately. They don't need to outnumber. Meanwhile, ChopBam doesn't give up, even if all evidence shows he's wrong. + there is a chance of scum nightkilling the SK, but honestly I believe I'm the one who's toast tonight.

ChopBam and Jeod pumping out posts at 600 rounds per minute. Panic in the scum doc. Man I'm excited.

Try your luck, Jeod. Damn, I'm good at this.

FINALLY! I was waiting for this! Scum rhethoric confirmed. The Fraydo+ChopBam+Jeod triangle. Day 1 chopbam says he believes Jeod is town. Day 2 chopbam "confirms" Jeod is town. Jeod seems "unclear" about chopbam, now he "believes" he is the cop. Fraydo, suspicious since the beginning, comes out and makes the case of Chaos+ChopBam scum team, voting on Chaos. Remember, 1 town lynch is what they need to win. Knowing this, I asked whether he wouldn't prefer to vote chopbam first (i mean, what's the difference if both are scum, right?). Fraydo got defensive and asked me to make a case on ChopBam if that is the case, ignoring everything that has been said this whole game. That trio has not said a bad word about one another, aside from the Fray-Bam argument which dissolved immediately after a swift Choppy rebuttal. But now, watch this - implying I'm the serial killer: We're at 8 players, 4 town, 1 sk, 3 scum. Serial Killer lynch today will result in a 4/3 ratio, plus a nightkill, 3/3 scum victory next day. This is what I was waiting for. The reason I didn't adress the elephant in the room even once today: Scum finding the scapegoat Serial Killer as a lynch substitute, winning the game right here, right now. Now, watch the vote avalanche.

Bold accusation. One i cannot disprove, unless lynched, nightkilled or cleared by a cop. As i said, i cant visit at night. It's a perk of being a genuine townie. Jeod, you're still avoiding casting a vote. Are you waiting till the end of the day to go with a majority lynch, or do you want to hide from responsibility like you did on day 1? It is easy to assume scum is still waiting for a chance to push a mislynch in the last few minutes of the day. Voting early or trying to start a bandwagon, in case it fails, risks a huge flop for the whole team. And you are one of those who do the delaying. Why is that?

Ah, but I don't have time to question him on this. Nightkilled. 1) Cops please stay silent; 2) Voe is revenge voting on a MYLO (really?) 3) Jeod is read as town. Had to specify not being on the same team together. The reason I'm calling a cop to come out on a successful find is because we're on a MYLO. If someone found a scum, or a person visiting either cat5 or mojoman tonight, now is the time to claim. There will be no tomorrow if we do this wrong. Good of you to clarify, Choppy, because during the mylo there is nothing stopping the scum to all go flat out against 1 person and get it overwith. And hey, is there an easier target than Voe? Pretty much caught between hammer and anvil. Scary situation, quickly fall back. Grab Jeod's attention to divert from oneself. If the Allies have a spy with a makeup kit, he'll show up as town to a cop, which would honestly bone the cop role. I hope this isn't the case, whoever that copper is. That said, I'd like to reaffirm my super strong hunch that Jeod is town, and so we shouldn't vote for him. After having established that cops should come out and help, he's putting into question their validity. You know, they may come out but they're probably wrong. At the same time, softclaiming an unspecified cop and defending Jeod? It doesn't add up. Maybe he'd like to explain? Nope, I get ignored. And this, FRAYDO, is a post i made specifically for you, which you also chose to ignore. Right now I'm leaning toward FRAYDO+ChopBam scum team, not so sure about Jeod. I guess his willingness to vote on this two will determine whether he's equally protective of them as they are of him and each other. ##vote ChopBam PS: ChopBam and Jeod on the forums. Intense scum brainstorming?

Anyone who talks about "revenge voting" still being the case clearly doesn't understand how dire a MYLO is. FRAYDO, you say that Chaos and ChopBam are scum together, and that's why Chaos isn't voting on chop. But there is literally no case on Chaos this whole game, and yet you prefer to oust him over ChopBam, who's slipping all day. Why is that?

No, I'd prefer you made your role assumptions in your head and note them in your private journal, instead of blasting them in the public. Sometimes it is wiser not to talk. That's why I asked for cops to come out on successful finds, and not just for the sake of it. We can't verify a town read unless by a lynch, which makes such claims pointless. It also makes the cop the target. If Choppy really is the cop (which i doubt tbh), he had a reason to defend Jeod, as he was under attack. I respect that. Following this example, he also had a reason to softclaim instead of going all out with his role. I'm seeing this, don't get me wrong. But this is only examining the game from the role perspective. I look at player interactions, and that bothers me with chop. I'm waiting on Nodlied to explain what he supposedly did to me last night. I wonder, too.

Town does itself a lot of harm softclaiming left and right. And if that is not enough, you keep drilling and drilling until submission so the only unknowns become knowns as well. Otherwise you just don't give up. I'd like a game as scum one day where I'd know who everyone is. >_>

I can't visit people at night. There, you fished another one. Who's next on your list?

You won't make me counterclaim anyone if you're looking for it.

Jeod, what do you think about choppy?