Voe

Fak. Phone. I don't buy chopbams soft claim because there are few types of cops in the role sheet. Blind claiming one of them risks a counterclaim. Being as ambiguous as it gets is an escape Gate which a real COP wouldnt need.

I dobt

Yes fraydo, what do you think, aside from stating the obvious? I'm re-reading the thread and of what I see, Cat5 was heavily implicating ChopBam for fence sitting and protecting Jeod on day1 for no good reason. Him jumping at me beginning day 2, calling out cops to not come out and claim as it's dangerous for them is 99% scum rhetoric. I don't know if Jeod and Choppy make a scum team, but Jeod isn't getting defensive. I don't blame him, he has only one vote on him. I wouldn't blow cover over 1 vote, either. I've mentioned during day 1 I assumed scum was a 2 player team. I am now leaning towards 3 players, them being Jeod, ChopBam and FRAYDO. I don't really see a reason to suspect anyone outside the list. *i think there is more because otherwise mylo doesn't make sense.

Tell us more about your hunch.

Jeod keeping secrets again? Good stuff. It's just like that one time when I flipped him and he pretended that nothing happened. I bet it's because he's dizzy again. And don't even get me started on "im at work i can't post" crap. You have no issue making conversation with ChopBam with 2 minute intervals. You don't respond only to those posts you don't want to respond to.

I support the removal. Volkovs popping out of mammoths to fire a salvo and then hiding to reload is infuriating to deal with. Same with shockies who are losing in infantry combat.

You're a wonderful couple, you two. Almost like if you could read each others minds.

The reason I'm calling a cop to come out on a successful find is because we're on a MYLO. If someone found a scum, or a person visiting either cat5 or mojoman tonight, now is the time to claim. There will be no tomorrow if we do this wrong. Good of you to clarify, Choppy, because during the mylo there is nothing stopping the scum to all go flat out against 1 person and get it overwith. And hey, is there an easier target than Voe?

We're not about to die. We lynch scum today.

I waited for his response to my night post. He never had a chance to give me one. I bet you're equally disappointed as I am, Jeod.

##vote Jeod I was thinking I could sway Cat5 into lynching Jeod today, but seeing he's dead, I'll be crusading alone. Additionally, if any town cops found anything, it is now time to share.

Yeah the two guys who saw we would be lynching a town aren't "clear". Let's go with that. Group responsibility. Not what town does. You tunneled vert all day, then unvoted few hours before hammer (when more or less the lynch has been decided), and while you still had the power to vote on anyone else, you chose not to. You must have been content with lynching vertigo in the end, but you did not want the responsibility of participating. It has nothing to do with Chaos. All day of fishing. Accusations, claiming people town in the first hours of the game, and an "empty talk finish". Nice, but no.

Meaning Jeod and Chaos aren't clear.

Aha, so you're willing to start a bandwagon and get someone almost lynched just to fish their role out. You're pushing it, Jeod.

What do you mean by "check out"? How about we "check out" Jeod for starting bandwagons and then falling out of them?

I feel wrong about this.

##vote vertigo I've had enough tbh, and, all in all, the potential reveal of this lynch is more worthwhile than any other. I made a post about that already.

+I'm glad Jeod you've come to your senses. A quick recap from me, as of end of Day 1: Category 5 Hurricane: Case on vert; valid, but wayy too easy to be true. Your attention to detail gives me good vibes. Chaos_Knight: Not much really, but player-enigma Russian KGB agent knows how to avoid being read. Someone said that his revenge against vert is justified and expected, but I don't see how that makes one less likely to be scum. ChopBam: Didn't he vote no-lynch? I ain't falling for that, bruh. FRAYDO: Good point on potential Jester motivations. Something I didn't think about. VERTi60: What a mess. All red flags are up, all triggers triggered. When I tried to defend you initially you immediately jumped on me for my "suspicious" voting pattern. Why do you want to antagonise everyone in the game, including those who want to pick your side? And yet... too easy. Alstar: See: ChopBam Jeod: Take a load of this guy. I genuinely perceive him as threat no matter what he does. My gut tells me nothing. Killing You: Edgy, to a point of jumping on vertigo bandwagon. I can't blame him, though. Mojoman: Please post more. Nodlied: I read your posts and get an impression you really try to appear agreeable to me. I wonder. Voe: I'll leave it for ease of copying. I'm eager to give Alstar the benefit of doubt as he's a new player. Cat5 also made a great point on potential town-antitown combos, where vert-jeod cannot be the same team, just as vert-chaos. Flipping vertigo scum would pretty much clear both Jeod and Chaos for the rest of the game, while putting a spotlight on those who defend him (read, Nodlied and myself). Flipping him town, on the other hand, would clear nothing. Vert acts in such peculiar manner that I cannot blame anyone for wanting to get him lynched. I'm clueless. Jeod Almighty may think he has everything figured out, but I can say with no shame that, for me, its too early to judge.

No-lynches are fucking awful. Also, Mojoman, you're stupid and if you re-read your post, you'll know why.

The town is. Nice post Cat5. I missed the "role confirmation" of vertigo by gencam. Or vertigo is a town doctor and does not want to claim as it'd make him dead in the water. He's made flimsy attempts to get out of the mess and... (???) ...and rubbish because he wanted himself dead. Unless it's done to punish town, specifically chaos, jeod and cat5 for their crusade. I hammered myself once day 1 as town doctor to have town lose for their stupidity.

I'm omitting the part where he isn't claiming. Try to back off and take a broader look, think outside of the box. There are so many things wrong I refused to believe they're unintentional.

I'm not saying he's town. I don't know what he might be. It's just that things like faking posting restrictions or lying are smart and can be used to some benefit. Throwing your life away on day 1 as scum is different - it's potentially throwing the game for your whole team. Unasked for. It's super bad taste, which is I don't believe a seasoned GM would do it.

I'm against lynching Vertigo and I'll say it up front: I do not believe he can be so reckless as scum. Even more so, I'm afraid he might be a jester. Tell me, who votes himself 1 vote away from hammer, 2 hours into game start? Also, your crusade against me is hardly surprising Cat5. (You literally pick 2 people you dislike and immediately place them together in a scum team. Very lazy and very convenient.)

Take note, Jeod, that this kind of bluff (if it failed and he got lynched) would be comparable to scum bussing himself, throwing the game for his teammate. Given it's day 1 with close no to hard evidence, it's 99% not what a sane person would do. I'd even call it bad taste. Something doesn't tick for me. Or teammates. I made an assumption there are 2 scum in this game.