iLikeToSnipe

@Killing_You were you ever able to confirm that Orange jailed you? Can't recall reading it, but I've missed a lot.

Assuming two scum in this game we could "afford" to lose three non-scum today. I think we can risk Orange being scum and trust him.

If that's how you feel I'd be willing to work on a case against one of the unconfirmed players should Nodlied flip neutral. I'm just holding off on that because I feel that how he flips would help us determine who to lynch next.

Because in this scenario I'd see me sticking around as a hindrance to town. So, get rid of me and an unknown.

Yes, I would expect a vote on me. I'm just saying that in that case we can kill two birds with one stone. Have the unknowns vote on me and I can pick one of them to kill. I would also not be opposed to an agreement on who I kill in that scenario.

From my perspective, if we confirm Nodlied is scum that would clear me. I have only once bussed a scum mate in the past and that was when they didn't cooperate, coordinate, communicate, etc. With me cleared, that leaves us with three unknowns, Sunflower, ChopBam, and Cat5. Gives us some good odds at taking out scum in one day.

Player Role Alignment Jeod Ability copy presumed Town (non-scum) Killing You Unstoppable day vig Orange Jailer claimed Neutral iLikeToSnipe Vengeful doctor Shade Jack of All Trades Nodlied Hider claimed Neutral Cat5 Unknown ChopBam Tracker Sunflower Watcher Vertigo Lynch proof So, we know Jeod got janitored. Since he was offed by scum and Orange confirmed his ability (which lead to Jeod successfully "testing" Orange) we still have a pretty good idea as to who Jeod was. A janitor ability is usually a one-time thing, it really doesn't make sense for scum to use it on Jeod. As soon as he got NK'd we knew that he was town, making his abilities and actions confirmed. So, why would scum even bother with a janitor kill? What if it was an ability that was a janitor kill AND an unstoppable kill? I purposely announced that I was going to randomly select myself or Jeod to protect due to WIFOM, I flipped a coin and landed on me. Of course, scum can't know who I'll be protecting that night but Jeod is still a threat to being able to out them. If their janitor's kill is also unstoppable that would give them a reason to use it, thereby negating any protection roles that might be used on him. We also had Jeod's fake claim of being BP (which Orange went along with to his credit). My current theory is that a role with a combined janitor/unstoppable NK took Jeod out. I really can't think of any decent explanation as to why scum would choose to use a janitor on a role confirmed town beyond having unlimited usages. With that in mind, let's refer to the claimed abilities listed above. We know Shade had a roleblock (I can back him up on that) and he used some sort of Liquidate ability on D2, we can reasonably assume that he doesn't have some kind of unstoppable janitor ability that turns people into mummies. Killing You was jailed by Orange last night, so he would have been unable to make the kill and is in the clear. We know that Vertigo is lynch proof, and never in my entire time playing mafia have I seen a scum member be given lynch proof. Lynch proof is just a town role, it's just far too powerful for scum to have; I doubt that he is scum. That leaves us with me, Nodlied, Cat5, ChopBam, and Sunflower as the potential killers. I'm obviously going to exclude myself since I know I'm town. I doubt that we have more than one neutral in this game and due to Jeod's testing of Orange I think we can take Orange's word that he's neutral. So my number one suspect is Nodlied. Which conveniently lines up with him being jailed N1 and there being no NK N1. Typically if somebody tries to kill a bulletproof role with an NK the target will be alerted to the failed attempt. Since nobody has come forward with claims of a failed attempt N1 then one of two possibilities happened. The scum team chose not to perform a kill (which is usually a bad idea) or the person carrying it out was blocked somehow. The only two players to claim to have been blocked on N1 were myself and Nodlied. So the lynch today should be between myself or Nodlied. Again, I know I'm town so... Before we do anything else, I'd like feedback from the other players. I was out of it Saturday and Sunday and missed quite a bit. There's definitely facts and evidence I've missed and I'm trying to look back through it all. So I'd appreciate the feedback on this logic as well as what I'm about to propose. I propose that KillingYou shoots Nodlied. Nodlied has claimed a neutral hider. He is not town and his top priority is to survive at all costs. He can and will betray us to the scum team if he is telling the truth. Should Nodlied flip as scum, then we probably bagged Jeod's killer (and it will indirectly confirm me). If Nodlied does flip neutral then I propose that we force all the non-confirmed players to vote for me today. If any refuse to vote for me we pick one to lynch. I will flip town and I will be able to take out one of them with my vengeful ability. I probably don't have much longer to live with being a claimed doctor and I'll just muddy up the waters further. Thoughts?

Worked late, just got back. Reviewing posts and making cases.

I'll be looking through all the claims to be sure, but my gut is telling me that Nodlied is lying.

That's an interesting objective, doesn't seem too hard to pull off...

Any action. My only targeted action is my protection ability. I'm assuming any item I might receive, if they're in the game, has the same limitations.

And?

Also, I'm not undead...

Haven't said much due to a migraine over the weekend. I did randomly select who I was going to protect. Will try and be more active after work today.

Well, I'm gonna RNG protecting myself or protecting Jeod...

That's what it says...

Yeah, only if I visit you.

Well, SCP-106 is very much alive. Isn't really undead.

What's the CVC?

Well, I've got day specific BP. Afaik unstoppable applies to just a doctor or bodyguard role, not actual BP, but that's a mod thing. And you'll be killing the town doctor...

On a lynch, which is kind of the only way to kill me during the day.

Obviously we need to nolynch lynch Vertigo today. :V

Pretty sure he said it's when he's visiting somebody.

That's all I can remember...

Absorbent and yellow and porous is he!