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On 4/15/2021 at 9:51 AM, Jeod said:
I'd think the opposite. I would expect a sabotage because if there isn't one they're just giving us one more win (2/3). Even if they're both scum, it isn't in their best interest to let it slide because we'll likely be rotating players again the following mission regardless of what happens.
So Jeod was expecting a player rotation today.
4 hours ago, OrangeP47 said:If Jeod was playing the long con, he'd still have tried to get his partner on the away team yesterday, and I don't see evidence of that.
Frankly, he didn't have to, seeing as I was against going on the away team yesterday.
I believe it is a long-con with a Jeod / Louis scum team. Here's what I think happened. Jeod was quick to jump on to the away team D1, Louis has been quiet, but her questions have been basically random simple questions that have her fly under the radar. Eg; "Wait why are we sending Jeod?" Louis then used some roleblock ability on Jeod N1 for more credibility.
The length of time here isn't too long, since no one mentioned a scheme like this until now.5 hours ago, OrangeP47 said:I mean, I've considered it, but I'm not gonna worry about it too much unless it actually happens. As of right now it'd be dumb to not do what we're doing. Going with the unproven team because the proven team isn't 100% proven is a bad move when the proven team has still gotten us 2/3 of the way to victory without taking any hits.
But don't forget with my math, that 2/3 victory can quickly turn to a 2/3 defeat and basically put us in a tie.
Therefore, I ##Nominate Townbot, Orange, Cat_5, Mojo for the away team.
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Is there a possibility Jeod took himself out of the game for D2 as a scum play? Obviously if he was scum he wouldn't sabotage the first away team, but what if was able to target anyone with a... well I guess roleblock (?) Style action.
That way he gets on for sure D3 (today), there's sabotage tonight, 1 point scum, we wise up, don't put him on D4, but put on his scum buddy, 2 points scum, then we have to argue between the remaining members and figure out if Jeod was actually the saboteur D3?
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1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said:
Just as we love putting random Japanese text on things,
大いなる不名誉のアメリカンドッグ0 -
4 hours ago, OrangeP47 said:
These smoked cheese pretz I got from Japan sure have a high opinion of themselves. "Let's Enjoy Me Time"
Wait a second, that's not Japanese.
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6 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:
Normally I'd argue we don't know what night actions can do, and I assume that's the stance of some others, but on the other hand, *Shade* said that, so fair point...
I'll assume you're town so I'd rather you not get caught out on something tomorrow.
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10 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:
I'm pretty sure nothing bad is going to happen tonight, and since apparently night actions do exist, if it does, it'll be due to a scum night action, so even if sabotage does happen I'm not sure if I'm gonna think Cat 5 is a baddie.
"This does mean that the only way for a mission to fail, is for a Separatist to be part of the Away Team. "
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1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said:
As it stands, we're sidelining you anyway without you being fingered for a sabotage.
I'll choose to be sidelined today rather than tomorrow.
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I'm just not sure if we change our nomination or we just vote on someone elses?
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4 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:
And I still think that reasoning is a scum reasoning. There is no reason for a town player to want to avoid being sent. There is no risk to looking suspicious as you have no risk of being removed. The risk for town is sending a scum player to the away team. Now, a scum player may consider being sent a risk as once they sabotage a mission the target will be on their backs for the rest of the game.
And the logic for scum not wanting to be sent doesn't really work, since that's their win condition. It's better for them to be on the away team and create discord, rather than trying to go together. So actually, I'd like to change my nomination to the same as the Cat_5's, since there's no possible way it would be good for a scum team to both NOT be on the away team.
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Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:
And I still think that reasoning is a scum reasoning. There is no reason for a town player to want to avoid being sent. There is no risk to looking suspicious as you have no risk of being removed. The risk for town is sending a scum player to the away team. Now, a scum player may consider being sent a risk as once they sabotage a mission the target will be on their backs for the rest of the game.
There's literally no risk in sending a scum player. We send one now, they sabotage, it's a 50/50. I just don't want to be the one defending myself tomorrow. The risk is me getting sidelined and scum pouncing on it.
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If I get put on a team at all, it's going to end up being with a scum. They're going to sabotage it, I'm bad at defending myself, and then I'm going to get benched the rest of the game and scum will be sent on the away teams while I impotently protest.
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I just don't want to be on the away team at all, regardless of who, and I've made my point as to why.
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Or should I say, least scummy play.
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2 hours ago, OrangeP47 said:
Don't you find being selfish a little... anti town?
In this case, no. If I'm scum I'd want to be on the away team, either to get a point for scum, or lay low and then use it as townie cred. Not going on the away team is the best town play.
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I know I'm town, so there's no point in me going, this way if there's any sabotage it's a 50/50 and I don't have to go through the effort of defending myself.
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##Nominate Townbot, Louis, Orange
I'll take your suggestion, but with a small modification.0 -
So is this something that happens every time or did Jeod just get unlucky?
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12 minutes ago, Jeod said:
That is most illogical.
Townbot should obviously take priority listing due to its trustworthiness.
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I disagree with Jeods vote though.
I think we should
##nominate TOWNBOT, Jeod
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1 hour ago, OrangeP47 said:
Well the bot seems incapable of doing it, but if we sent two humans one of them could and then we'd have to argue.
The play here is, if we send Jeod and the bot, we send Jeod and the bot *ad infinitum* until we either win or something bad happens, at which point we know something's wrong. If the away team never expands to 3, we know that bad thing is Jeod. If the away team does expand, then that's where we argue and basically have to play mastermind (the code breaking game).
I'd assume it would increase though. Otherwise town could just so that 3 days in a row and win without any chance for scum.
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Just now, OrangeP47 said:
Ironically, it's not that bad of an idea. Jeod may or may not be scum, but if he's scum, he'd have to be the dumbest boy alive to actually sabotage D1. We can let him do it, just keep in mind that it doesn't actually clear him.
Fair shake. I guess with only 2 team members regardless there'd be no sabotage.
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Just now, Jeod said:
This is an easy day then.
##nominate Jeod, TOWNBOT
Or not.
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Just now, OrangeP47 said:
You joke, but if we nominate scum D1 I suspect the play would be for them to pretend to be a goodie.
Either way a point for town.
So we just don't send the bot unless we are in a losing position right? It gives us more suspects to focus on.
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The ultimate scum play is to not sabatoge at all and just lose.
Town would never suspect.
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