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  5. [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia

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    Just now, Nodlied said:

    I hate changing objectives and I prefer being town. During the time I was dead, I've used some of my actions to raise the chances that I'm town. So no, I won't be scum.

    You still have a 25% at being scum regardless. And I was working for the scum win previously, just as I was working for the town win even before that. Objectives change as this game is all about quantum uncertainty.

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  10. [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia

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    What happens depending if a person is scum:

    Chaos_Knight: We lose unless we vote him. Chaos kills Irish N4, Nod N5, lynch D5, the remaining N6 if need be.

    Nodlied: We gain another day to live. Lynch D5, kills N5, lynch D6. Better chance at Town winning

    Voe: We might gain another day to live if we vote CK and Voe doesn't know how to use the Time Machine properly. Voe kills CK N5, lynch D5, the remaining N6.

    TheIrishman: We gain another day to live if we vote Voe. Irish kills Voe N5, lynch D5, the remaining N6.

    Other than me trying for the scum win in a different world line, I really don't see what's wrong with the information I've presented.

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  14. [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia

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    What happens depending on who's scum:

    Chaos_Knight: We lose unless we vote him. Chaos kills TheIrishman N4, Nod N5, lynch D5, the remaining N6 if need be

    Nodlied: We gain another day to live if we vote Chaos_Knight. Nod kills CK N5, lynch D5, the remaining N6

    Voe: We might gain another day to live if Voe doesn't know how to use the Time Machine properly. Voe kills CK N5, lynch D5, the remaining N6.

    TheIrishman: We gain another day to live if we vote Voe. Irish kills Voe N5, lynch D5, the remaining N6.

    Is that a better clarification, Chaos?

    Just now, Chaos_Knight said:

    You are quite new to the Mafia thing, are you?
    Scum don't need to win 1v1 vote, their objective is to have equal or larger amount of people than Town. Though we better ask Cat5 here tbh.

    From my understanding, say this were a normal game and the only 2 left were scum and a vigilante, who would win? The vigilante if he still has a day kill. For this game, since there's still a way to kill the last scum, the scum must have more than town to win rather than having a tie (though I could be wrong, you're right this is only my 2nd game).

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  15. [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia

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    I realize that the game won't actually end until we lynch the scum, but I'm saying if we don't lynch accordingly, regardless of who turns out to be scum, town will lose. Like if you turn out to be scum, you'll have killed me N4, killed Nod N5, lynched whoever D6, and killed whoever N6. I know that nobody is "locked in" until they are lynched. And no, you wouldn't win for a 1v1 vote since ties are broken through dead votes.

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  17. [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia

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    4 hours ago, Voe said:

    I'm ok with these odds.

    4 hours ago, Nodlied said:

    25% is good enough for me.

    Alright, but I'm still leaning towards following Operation Ragnarok and voting Voe then. Although considering the odds, it's tempting to vote Chaos_Knight. But me voting for Voe is the most self detrimental vote I can do if I were scum, it'd give the living players another day to live and then they'd lynch me.

    What happens depending on who's scum:

    Chaos_Knight: We lose unless we vote him.

    Nodlied: We gain another day to live if we vote Chaos_Knight

    Voe: We might gain another day to live if Voe doesn't know how to use the Time Machine properly

    TheIrishman: We gain another day to live if we vote Voe.

    So actually I changed my mind ##vote Chaos_Knight since it'll give us better odds and if we were to trust Voe, he could potentially save us in case CK turns out to be Town and if time travel becomes no longer taboo for you guys.

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  18. [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia

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    10 minutes ago, Voe said:

    ##vote irishman

    I'm the last person remaining in my doc, and since 2 scum are already dead I do not believe that using the time machine would ever be a good idea.

    Only scum would suggest doing it right now, instead of trying to lynch the final one.

    :\ Only scum would recommend using the Time Machine? Okay say we mislynch today, if scum targeted someone other than who we lynched, we lose. Example, if you were scum, you would've killed CK for N4, lynched another for D5, then killed the last one for N5. We only have a 25% chance of getting the scum right now. You want to bet on those odds?

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  19. [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia

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    2 hours ago, Nodlied said:

    Technically, classic scum hunting should work. It is just limited to this day. And the investigation results do matter, you yourself have given the reason why.

    I suppose, but one day is too short to truly scum hunt with the lack of information, which is why D1 is notorious for being the mess around day. But investigation results don't matter as of right now for proving who is or isn't scum since the person with Reading Steiner is already dead. 

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  20. [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia

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    Alright, I again state that I think having Voe send ##D-Mail Chopbam N0 “VisitVoeN0VoteNodD1&OP47D3" would be our best option. The result would be me, Voe, Chaos_Knight, Sillius, and Chopbam being alive, with only one scum left (it shouldn't reroll R1 or R2 as we're not lynching other Rounders and we're not forcing anyone to be a Rounder with Reading Steiner). Of the people alive, at least 2 would be in the FGL, giving us another use for the Time Machine with the chance for 3 being in the FGL. It would also enable one of us to have Reading Steiner again. It couldn't be Chopbam, Voe or Chaos_Knight. So either Sillius or myself would have the opportunity to have Reading Steiner.

    Also I investigated Voe and got Town.

    And until Voe responds ##vote Voe

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  21. [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia

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    Classic scum hunting doesn't work in quantum mafia, that's why. You could be trying to win for one side for a minute, but then the next, your goals are switched. Myself for case and point. Results don't tell much either since they're only used for Reading Steiner, they have no benefit otherwise. As of right now, there should be a 1/4 chance for anyone to be scum. But I am interested in who investigated who.

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  23. [GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia

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    What part am I not taking account for? Jeod, Kamuixmod, and Chopbam are the only people who could possibly be R1 no matter what because OrangeP47 died N0 and I'm not fixing that for the plan, otherwise we'll go back to zero confirmed Rounders. Which tempts me to change the Option 001 B D-Mail to Option 002 B: ##D-Mail Chopbam N0 “VisitVoeN0VoteNodD1&OP47D3” Which would change it so that R1 would be Jeod still regardless of reverse causality, and gain us one more member for Time Machine use. And depending on if his PM was sent before either Misa or Voe, he could be the FGL Leader which would in turn bring Chaos_Knight in the lab as well.

    The main reason Jeod was forced to be R1 initially was because you guys changed the D1 vote to Killius, which activated her Reading Steiner since her investigation on Jeod turned up as Organization. He wasn't just randomly flipped.

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