TheIrishman
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Kamui, I've invested far too much time on my plan to stop short simply because I'm being guilt tripped. And winning the true way? There is no "true way" in mafia other than completing your objective. Not to mention Cat5 would probably kill me for the whole new level of time meddling I'd have to do to reverse this. Also, as I've already said almost half a dozen times, it wouldn't secure a win for Town. It'd only increase the odds.
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47 minutes ago, Silius said:
I do realize that that was what was original stated, however I have reason to believe things had changed at one point and I was curious if anyone else knew. We could be back to only having two rounders, but we did have 3 at one point recently.
Can you tell me how you knew there had to be 3 Rounders at one point? If we can just recruit more Rounders, can't we just win with everyone being part of the Organization?
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36 minutes ago, Silius said:
So... I'm curious, is everyone still under the impression that there can only be two rounders?
On 5/25/2017 at 7:16 PM, Category 5 Hurricane said:In this 11-player game, two players are Organization (Rounder #1 and Rounder #2), one player has Reading Steiner (town cop), and one player is the Future Gadget Lab Leader (unconfirmed masonry leader, can be any alignment, and can combine with other roles)
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Welcome aboard, Retaliation! and I think that's Town's current plan. To vote me or to not vote me, that is the question.
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Ugh...I already spent over 2 hours coming up with my plan and making sure there wouldn't be any problems via reverse causality. Should I actually abandon it for a plan that limits the R1 to be either FRAYDO or Misa and the R2 to be OrangeP47, FRAYDO, Misa, Voe or Sillius? Assuming Kmod is telling the truth about having Reading Steiner on D4 and also isn't lying to me about his investigation towards me. Tough call.
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Just now, kamuixmod said:
Cuz my RC is 0%
Alright, who changed Kmod's N0 and N3 investigations?
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Just now, kamuixmod said:
I investigated you N3
If you did, then how is it possible that my AC is still 100%? You have nothing to remove your chances at being R1.
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Who'd you change it to and what was the result?
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6 minutes ago, Chaos_Knight said:
Were you an active Rounder D4? Not just org member I mean. Or were you RS?
He can't have RS since it's a town role and his first investigation was on himself which came up as Organization
2 minutes ago, kamuixmod said:Dude i got you investigated as Town so you cant be rounder at all
I'm pretty sure you never investigated me. The only person who has is Chaos_Knight.
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7 minutes ago, kamuixmod said:
As i said lynch me D4 if you want a town win
12 minutes ago, TheIrishman said:Are you talking about if I lynched you D4? It'd make the suspects (for R1 only), you, FRAYDO, Chaos_Knight, Sillius, Misa, and Chopbam.
Chop and you would be dead, so that would leave only FRAYDO, Chaos_Knight, Sillius, and Misa. FRAYDO already isn't in my lab along with Misa, so I could've kicked out Sillius and Chaos_Knight. Chaos and Sillius couldn't be R1 since they investigated Jeod, so then R1 would have to be either FRAYDO or Misa. But R2 could still be anybody, so they could be in the lab and use the time machine whenever they wanted. I don't see how your plan would've made things easier.
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1 minute ago, Chaos_Knight said:
And RC? Aka Rounder Chance.
Sorry, so used to it always being AC and OC. My RC is 13%
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100 AC 38% OC
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1 minute ago, kamuixmod said:
You know it would have been much easier kicking out the bad guys and rolling for town D6 but na
Are you talking about if I lynched you D4? It'd make the suspects, you, FRAYDO, Chaos_Knight, Sillius, Misa, and Chopbam.
Chop and you would be dead, so that would leave only FRAYDO, Chaos_Knight, Sillius, and Misa. FRAYDO already isn't in my lab along with Misa, so I could've kicked out Sillius and Chaos_Knight. Chaos and Sillius couldn't be R1 since they investigated Jeod, so then R1 would have to be either FRAYDO or Misa. But R2 could still be anybody, so they could be in the lab and use the time machine whenever they wanted. I don't see how your plan would've made things easier.
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Maybe the selection of Rounders work different from what I imagine, but I did roll for town D3, so that's probably why you were a Rounder. I suppose I may not yet be forced to be a Rounder at this point, but I've already come so far, might as well cross the finish line, right? And it was my initial D-mail that saved myself from being forced into the Organization in the first place. I'm not sure if I would want to fix that.
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Um...Chaos, I already mentioned how I have the highest AC, so I literally can't be Town next phase. And I have upas galore if I need to roll for it.
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I try to think of every possibility before I eliminate someone as a suspect, which means I also try to think of what I would do if I was that suspect...So if someone else tried to implement the plan of lynching you D4 instead, I'd still be suspicious of them.
1 minute ago, Chaos_Knight said:Well, I think at this point Irish went full evil mode. So I don't think we should be reasoning with him anyway.
What we need to do is to find either a Reading Steiner or Irish's scumbuddy.*Laughs in 36 bytes and 1 day cooldown*
There are ways around the cooldown. And you can send more than one command in 36 bytes :b
I'm not trying to be in "evil mode." Just playing my role now. Until I'm "forced" to be scum, I'll always play for Town.
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3 minutes ago, kamuixmod said:
There is a way. If you kill me D4 you are town.
You underestimate me and time travel, I could've easily changed the D4 lynch to you while changing my N0 target to Orange and my N1 target to someone else. You wouldn't have known. If I did or not as I would still be Lab leader and nothing else would've changed.
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Whoever said I'm trying to kamikaze? I could've changed their actions with time travel as well. Or another possibility is that I made the plan and had them execute it via time travel, you really don't know.
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Just now, OrangeP47 said:
An explanation from him would certainly be very 'entertaining', if nothing else.
If we're being honest here, I didn't originally plan to shift this to Gamma World Line. The thought of how to abuse time travel and change more than a few actions/votes came to me on D4, but I didn't really want to be evil. *sigh* Things change though, later that day Jeod had his plan that would practically force me to be a Rounder when I was one of the people who's been trying their hardest to fight the Organization. It's really a shame because at this point in the game, I'm practically guaranteed to be part of the Organization. There are a few ways I could've cleared myself with time travel, but it'd be a bit suspicious, like how could I prove that I changed my N0 investigation to Jeod when he's dead? Fraydo's AC would've went up but I could've just as easily have changed it to an inactive player or another dead player.
On 5/26/2017 at 9:44 PM, TheIrishman said:Operation Verthandi (temporary name, also known as plan V): We manipulate who will be part of the Organization by not investigating at least 2 people of the five people. We should try to come to an agreement with who we shouldn't investigate beforehand or we can try to make it random via generators or whatever.
This really would've worked. I didn't realize this at first, but in the example video Cat5 made, it mentioned how the 2 people with the highest Alive Chance would be selected as the 2 Rounders each day. Which is why I'm a rounder. But everyone else has 60% AC or lower now, so the other one could be any one of you.
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It got changed to you, Chaos.
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Got my PM now, yeah, my target has been changed for N3.
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Chaos and Sillius are only cleared from being R1, they could still be R2, so no, they are not cleared. As for Voe, I'm not sure. You're right, he hasn't been too active, but it wouldn't be the first time someone tried to play off inactivity as an excuse for innocence. *cough* Nodlied *cough cough*
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So, fun...the Time Machine was used without prior notice, so there's 2 likely options:
001. The Organization has infiltrated the Future Gadget Lab and has altered the past for their benefit (85%)
002. Someone decided to alter the past to Town's benefit without telling everyone, either on accident, in haste, or on purpose (15%)
(Percentages are based on my personal feeling)
Depending on how much will change, we might be able to determine whether it was just one member or two that changed the past.
Suspects are myself, OrangeP47, Chaos_Knight, Voe, and Sillius.
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KMod, the reason you were temporarily killed Night 1 was because of Jeod's Reading Steiner. At the time, the R2 was already lynched and his Reading Steiner made it so the only people who could be Rounder #1 also visited you, hence you would've died Night 1 no matter what. After it was changed to Jeod dying earlier, he could no longer have Reading Steiner, so his results were no longer confirmed.
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[GAME OVER - TOWN WINS]Steins;Gate - Quantum Mafia
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On the premise your night actions were changed, that you found me to be Town, and that you would even have Reading Steiner after I'd swap the world lines. :\ Curious though that you seem certain that my reversing of the world lines wouldn't negate the previous change to your night actions either.