ChopBam

Nodlied isn't known at all to do that. And even Jeod stops claiming it when it's a done deal and he has no chance to change minds. Usually Jeod just gets mad at something and fights in that regard. "Why didn't more town speak up and argue? C'mon, activity!"

Going back to Nodlied's death, I think he had every reason to believe, at hammertime, that his alignment was going to be revealed as soon as he was lynched. If he was scum, as OrangeP47 now even more strongly "believes," why then did he bother to keep insisting he wasn't scum 1 minute before hammer when every single other player had voted against him?

It's possible something changed during the night. But your guess is as good as mine as to what that could be.

I don't think Cat5 was possessed. He wanted to be shot as it could help him further his goals, whatever those may be.

If this works as you're proposing, and if Jeod can somehow speak to us from the grave, then he can confirm my words.

Oh good catch, there's a difference between the result on Jeod and the result on Sunflower. Sunflower I couldn't track, on Jeod it says he didn't visit anybody.

I really don't know about this business of me supposedly being able to know who Jeod targeted. I mean seriously, wat? He's dead. He's not a valid target for my night action, and when I did target him, it went nowhere. I'll make this much clear. My result PM doesn't state who my target is. It just says who my target visited. Although last night I couldn't sense my target, so it only makes sense I hit the mark on Sunflower, unless some other shenanigans exist and I visited another player who couldn't be tracked at all.

With all these effects he has on the game I have a hard time believing he's neutral.

I don't care that much, you're suspicious af. 🤔

Maybe there's a uh, reason I was going to be fine?

I'm curseproof and I hinted at this yesterday, which you seemed to accept then.

Do you believe mafia bussed their own guy, counting on this conundrum of ours?

I think there's room for at least one mafia player. There are so many defensive roles in this game, it's easily explained how there've been so few nightkills.

Minus that little cop report, eh? Bet that's just an oopsie.

Am I the only person not buying whatever backwards logic is going on here?

And are you still 80-90% sure Nodlied was scum? Or is that number lower right now?

Oh I see he protect KY.... nvm this part then.

Hey, wasn't Orange 80-90% sure that Nodlied was scum scum? There are things that really don't line up if Nodlied was scum, such as the fact that everybody voted for him. And the fact he was saying he wasn't scum, even after hammer, is also tickling my nerves that he wasn't actual scum. So, who did we all sorta agree this would turn back to, and who also was given a scum result by our mostly-trusty cop? OrangeP47. I still maintain though that it's unlikely he's the one doing/trying the kills because of his confirmed jailing action. HOWEVER, he could be a scum jailer. I tried tracking Sunflower because she's an unlikely nightkill target. So why did Orange jail her? From what I'm thinking in my mind it wasn't to protect her, but to keep her watchful eye from seeing anything. I'd like to see our doctor report though to see who was protected, as well, to determine why we didn't have a NK. Also I'd love to finally see flip reports now, thank God for Killing You.

So I asked myself, "Who's the nicest person here? Who's least likely to be targeted for a nightkill or anything else, so I can finally confirm once and for all that I have a tracking ability? I know, I'll track Sunflower!" And so it was that for once in her life, Sunflower was shielded from any night actions and ChopBam left the house, head down, dejected and still unconfirmed.

Soooo you expect me to switch targets to Jeod...?

It could be extremely useful if it made scum believe they were tracked. There were too many risks with me trying this though.

This is a universal anti-Jeod argument.

The guys who claim neutral get the ax first, from most suspicious to least, pending no better leads. We can use our night actions to further our investigation in the meantime.

Finally Verti said something I can get behind.

Half? I feel like going back to one of Jeod's charts and picking up where he left off, but I can't be arsed.