ChopBam

Oh I see he protect KY.... nvm this part then.

Hey, wasn't Orange 80-90% sure that Nodlied was scum scum? There are things that really don't line up if Nodlied was scum, such as the fact that everybody voted for him. And the fact he was saying he wasn't scum, even after hammer, is also tickling my nerves that he wasn't actual scum. So, who did we all sorta agree this would turn back to, and who also was given a scum result by our mostly-trusty cop? OrangeP47. I still maintain though that it's unlikely he's the one doing/trying the kills because of his confirmed jailing action. HOWEVER, he could be a scum jailer. I tried tracking Sunflower because she's an unlikely nightkill target. So why did Orange jail her? From what I'm thinking in my mind it wasn't to protect her, but to keep her watchful eye from seeing anything. I'd like to see our doctor report though to see who was protected, as well, to determine why we didn't have a NK. Also I'd love to finally see flip reports now, thank God for Killing You.

So I asked myself, "Who's the nicest person here? Who's least likely to be targeted for a nightkill or anything else, so I can finally confirm once and for all that I have a tracking ability? I know, I'll track Sunflower!" And so it was that for once in her life, Sunflower was shielded from any night actions and ChopBam left the house, head down, dejected and still unconfirmed.

Soooo you expect me to switch targets to Jeod...?

It could be extremely useful if it made scum believe they were tracked. There were too many risks with me trying this though.

This is a universal anti-Jeod argument.

The guys who claim neutral get the ax first, from most suspicious to least, pending no better leads. We can use our night actions to further our investigation in the meantime.

Finally Verti said something I can get behind.

Half? I feel like going back to one of Jeod's charts and picking up where he left off, but I can't be arsed.

I just mentioned how the game balance really seems to favor town here, and how unlynchable scum could be one of the powerful scum counters.

Then you should read again.

I'm certainly open to it. There are multiple angles that could still paint you as scum, and a daykill is certainly very potentially useful if somebody we want dead has lynchproof...

I'm trying to be as open as possible. I admitted to everyone here that I considered lying about it in order to make something useful out of the uselessness of my tracking a person who turned up dead. Do also remember that Jeod yesterday asked me to track him. Beyond this, it's yet another WIFOM thing. I'm either using this tracking thing to cover up a kill or I really did do as Jeod asked and now I'm suspicious just because I admitted to visiting him. Do we hear anybody else admitting to visiting Jeod? No, so why would I do that if my action was a bad thing...? I have nothing to hide here. Oh I'll be fine. Even if we haven't confirmed his alignment per se, it lines up N1 that Orange didn't try to kill anybody. I personally know he visited Nodlied. Nodlied didn't die, and nobody else claimed to block Nodlied. This could be very true. So, all sorts of protection, including BP, blocking, doctor, what sort of nasty shit does the scum team have to counterbalance this? 3 scum members maybe? A lynchproof Verti?

*triggered*

I highly doubt a one-time daykill is the only way to get rid of Verti if he's scum, though. If KY was to die, for example, we'd have a seriously unbalanced game.

KY still has a bullet in his gun, you know.

Sorry for the spam, but new ideas keep coming. The main complaint about the helipad was that it could nightkill while also being unlynchable. Wasn't very popular. The fact Verti's boasting his "spooky helipad" right now and the fact he's apparently unlynchable doesn't bode well for his reputation atm.

Coincidentally, one of these unlynchable scum characters in a Verti game was a helipad. *Glares at Verti's avatar.*

It's been done in Verti games, where the unlynchable scum couldn't nightkill. He had a night action that left him vulnerable for a day but would remove both his restriction and his protection.

If Nodlied truly flips as neutral, that'll cast a lot of suspicion on Orange.

!vote no

No, I'm calling you hostile TP because that's what you are. WIFOM at this point.

This might have been a decent idea a day ago, but now we only have < 5 hours till hammer and some folks are basically gone till that point and won't have the chance to revote, much less discuss a viable new lynch.

@Nodlied If you could give it a percentage, how sure are you that OrangeP47 is scum?

It originally wasn't even part of the poll. But I do think C&C is way better. I just couldn't seriously get into AoE.