Guest A_Mustang Posted May 9, 2009 Report Posted May 9, 2009 the front of the turret needs to be more angular, as EVA-251 says. This makes it look like the successor of the M1 Abrams tank. (it could also use a 30% longer barrel, but I don't think you'll listen to me on this as it is strictly my personal preference)
OWA Posted May 9, 2009 Author Report Posted May 9, 2009 Also, I was wondering, did you remove the machine gun turret on the top so newbies wouldn't confuse it for being usable? Also to stop people complaining that it's unusable. They may be added at a later date though. Voxel isn't round in any respect, really. Especially in the turret area. And Adrw, the consistency with the Grizzly Tank is undeniable. Just look at the 3 versions (cameo, FMV, voxel) and it isn't hard to notice the same model was used. (actually, looking at the FMV and cammeo more, I am starting to think they used the same render scene to do both, with the cameo being much more saturated and having a slightly different lighting set up) BTW, you guys do have all of RA2's voxels extracted, and are using such fancy tools as OS VXLSE III, HVA Builder and Voxel Viewer to do assist in your modelling work, right? Judging by all the replies, it seems like the angular route is the way to go. I'll do a re-hash sometime and put it up in one of the next blogs. I do use OS VXLSE III for our referance work now (before I was just going on ingame screenies, FMVs and concept art). Thankyou all for your feedback.
VERTi60 Posted May 9, 2009 Report Posted May 9, 2009 I would like to apply to help you guys out but since I'm starting production to make my own game (still pending however) and since I'm already doing PR job for another two games I'm not sure how much spare time I could offer. If the required time could be specified more I could tell but I'm not sure yet.
Chaos_Knight Posted May 9, 2009 Report Posted May 9, 2009 http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6967/gallery37117212.jpg There is an image of Grizzly model from unrealised Renegade 2. That's how Westwood saw this tank. I know that it doesn't look exactly like voxel, but it is also nearly official Grizzly image.
Guest EVA-251 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/6967/gallery37117212.jpg There is an image of Grizzly model from unrealised Renegade 2. That's how Westwood saw this tank. I know that it doesn't look exactly like voxel, but it is also nearly official Grizzly image. The models of Renegade II are completely different from Red Alert 2. The Prism Tank, Light Tank, Hind, Grizzly Tank, Apocalypse Tank and Rhino Tank are new designs that only possibly draw influence from the original RA2 designs.
Guest HunterXc Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 but that Ren2 Grizzly has a face! I tell you, a tank with a face = pwn ;0 Altough it's indeed not really a RA2 render, there Are some elements that come back that look like the grizzly in RA2..
Guest Kakashi Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 (actually, looking at the FMV and cameo more, I am starting to think they used the same render scene to do both, with the cameo being much more saturated and having a slightly different lighting set up) On the FMV you see the back of the tank with the turret turned to face you, on the cameo you look at the front of the tank, so I doubt that it's the same render.
Guest EVA-251 Posted May 10, 2009 Report Posted May 10, 2009 On the FMV you see the back of the tank with the turret turned to face you, on the cameo you look at the front of the tank, so I doubt that it's the same render. Looking at it a little more, I believe you would be correct. However, the background and model used are the same, with the rotation and lighting being the differences.
Guest Gurgle Posted May 11, 2009 Report Posted May 11, 2009 (edited) will be active in the forseeable futureThe forseeable future... Comrade Chairman, I am the future. >_> Well, I'll just jump on the bandwagon here and say that the Grizzly's turret is too roundish. Though, I think some units just don't translate very well from a top-down 2.5D perspective to an FPS-style 3D model - the Grizzly Tank, Apoc Tank and Flak Track. (On the other hand units like the Harrier, Prism Tank, and V3 Launcher translate very well.) Oh, and RenXc... IT DOES HAVE A FACE Edited May 11, 2009 by Gurgle
Guest Lt Albrecht Posted May 11, 2009 Report Posted May 11, 2009 If you take the FMVs the grizzly will translate fine, it can be sleek and angular, it's about making it look aerodynamic.
Guest Lt Albrecht Posted May 11, 2009 Report Posted May 11, 2009 Yeah, kinda. And like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_light_tank
Guest HunterXc Posted May 11, 2009 Report Posted May 11, 2009 (edited) Oh, and RenXc... IT DOES HAVE A FACE RenXc? I'm HunterXc, RenXc is a member of our clan yes, altough he's not very active. Edited May 11, 2009 by HunterXc
Guest Gurgle Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Oh, dammit! Sorry. Too similar D: but the face is still there...
Guest HunterXc Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Oh, dammit! Sorry.Too similar D: but the face is still there... The face stays ;p It's ok, as long as you know Xc is a clan from now on, everything is fine ;p Anyway back on topic, let me also mention some good things about the current Grizzly render too: 1. I like the claws. 2. The cannon also looks very nice and detailed I'm really looking forward to see this one textured, coming to that I really should continue my texture-lessons. Edited May 12, 2009 by HunterXc
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