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Bottom line is, I trust Shade to try a gambit that is unpredictable and leads to results that aren't what he claims will happen. So... I did not (and still don't) trust that he has any kind of alignment test.

Cause I'm used to him having a day big and using it on a whim. I die, I lose.

Give me protection. Then I talk. I know you don't have an action to protect me, but I'm sure somebody does. Work to get me that night protection and I'm 100% on your side. Deal?

Besides, if you want to go purely by my meta then I'm definitely not mafia. Why would I give up control of the vote and just sit back as mafia? But am I suddenly mafia because I wouldn't do that as mafia? Strictly applying my meta I am either neutral or TP. If you believe otherwise, then let's talk. At this point you're just pushing for a lynch you know doesn't help town.

By all means, keep on focusing on the player who has acted in their own interests and been open about their role and alignment. Pay no attention to all the other players who contribute nothing and try to stay out of the spotlight.

You're free to assume that everything follows a meta or set of strict rules. I'm not going to complain if you lynch me. I'm just giving you the straight truth of what will happen.

Context. Never said town wouldn't claim neutral.

Shade is the exception to every rule out guideline.

I don't think town would claim neutral. But I jokingly suspect Shade would.

Gotta lynch that neutral!

I half expect Shade to flip Town.

I think it could if balanced properly. Even if I was TP I'd still be the wrong lynch choice for town.

Let's say you had this split. Mafia: 2 TP: 1 Neutral: 2 Town: 7 That's 8 players that Mafia has to contend with (Town + TP) and 2 wildcards. 2 v 8 is pretty close to standard for the ratio against mafia. Factor in whatever balancing Jeod has, and I think these numbers would line up well.

@Category 5 Hurricane @OrangeP47 Is this what you're thinking of?

I can't find that anywhere in her activity. If anyone actually made that, it might have been Shade. I'd disagree. Lone players are the most prone to forget to send in actions. If you have a teammate you can at least plan things, discuss, and be reminded to do something.

How are you so certain Lois had a teammate?

That requires guarantees of protection. Why would I ever help town if doing so puts me at high risk of a mafia kill when my goal is ONLY to survive? Take a step back from being all towny and try to imagine you're a neutral with no night BP ability who only has a goal to survive. How likely are you to help either major faction if your only goal is to survive? Yes, either side could try to threaten me and press gang me into helping them. But that's why I have my backup warhead.

Nobody's word is really worth anything in this game. At any time anyone can make any claim. If you have solid reasons to believe I'm mafia rather than any other alignment then go ahead and go after me. You're going to be disappointed and one step closer to losing.

I'm not going to claim I know who everyone is, that's ludicrous. But I have enough alignment reads and information to be accurate.

Or if I have accurate scum reads. Or if I have abilities that give me intel to act off of.

In a game where I'm a neutral player who could just be left alone? Survival if everyone listens and is rational (one reason I went with the action/lynch immune day ability), retribution in death if they aren't.

I have made more claims to be town or TP (when I'm not) than neutral I believe. I do a lot of fake claims and gambits, but I do that as every alignment. Town, mafia, neutral, or TP.

But would somebody else on your team be? I have a few good targets I hit if town lynched me, you may or may not be on that list.

Then start a lynch on me and learn your lesson about game theory/mutually assured destruction. I do have a gun, it is not enough to stop either town or mafia, but it's enough to seriously hurt one of them.

Fool them on many gambits (and fool mafia on gambits as town). Now that I think of it, am I the only one who has won a game as a cult leader before?