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With three claimed lynchproof at least one or two are hostile. Think we'll need to drill in on Nodlied, Irishman, and FRAYDO.

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##nominate OranteP47 Kind of silly to nominate the guy I'm lynching...

By the way, CVC?

Crazy thought, what if it's a Shade/Nodlied scum team?

Alright, let's go with Irish. I personally don't feel that Nodlied is telling the truth. But Shade did claim having an item from an since the start of the game. ##vote Irishman

And could you restate your reasons for wanting to vote Irish over Nodlied?

@OrangeP47 Do you disagree with any of that?

Alright, I think I could narrow it down to Irish vs Nodlied. Yesterday I my gut read was that Irish was town. Today he's one of the non-cleared suspects for NK. He could have done the NK, but I don't feel we have any evidence for or against that he did it. Nodlied claims that he's effectively invulnerable as a character. The only way to kill him is through an item. Obviously he's not going to tell us how, but I'm not sure how the mechanics of killing him would even work. On top of this, we already have another hard to kill player (for town that is). I just find it hard to believe that we'd have two. So what it comes down to for me is a player who gives me a complete null read right now and a player whose claimed abilities just don't line up with what we know.

Well, I've honestly been thinking just in terms of actions and not items. Not sure who to pick, but I think we're back to Nodlied, KY, and Irish. ##unvote

If you don't trust me enough to take my word for Cat5 and want to lynch him I'll explain. Otherwise, I would leave it up to him.

So you know who two people visited?

I know what he did last night and can back him up. It would be round about, and I don't think we'd have time at this point, but I set things up where we'd be able to verify stuff with one or more other players. I can't 100% confirm he's town, but he seems pretty town to me.

Because they're not likely to be scum. Our top priority is to find scum, not neutral or TP. If we happen to find one, great. But again, there's almost no chance that Fraydo is scum. I'd even go as far as to say it's impossible. No scum should ever be lynchproof, let alone vote proof. D1 he was all but confirmed not scum. With me confirming that his vote proof is a passive ability, not an item, then there's no chance that he's scum. Period. He was one of the worst targets to track N1. Coincidentally, he was the only person to claim that he would visit Orange.

What I'm starting to think is that if I were a town tracker I would not track Fraydo, that wouldn't really do much to help town. He was voteproof, he might be a hostile TP but there's almost no chance of him being scum. Why not track somebody who was suspicious? To me, Fraydo is the last person I would track just based on what we knew about him. And that's not even mentioning that Fraydo announced his target D1. So, ChopBam tracked a person who was low on the list for people who should be tracked and claimed that he visited the guy everybody assumed he was going to visit. This is really suspicious to me.

Orange: Gives out cake to first visitor which has different effects and uses. Not a super scummy ability. FRAYDO: Cannot even be voted for. Has a night action. Vote immunity is not from any item. Nodlied: Claims to have the ability to possess items and cannot be killed except through destroying said item. KillingYou: Claims to be able to establish a permanent masonry with a chance at failure. ChopBam: Claimed to have tracked Fraydo to Orange. Supposedly verified, but it was public knowledge that this would happen. Irishman: ??? Can't recall any claims or info. And this where I'm gonna stop listing what we know actually. Why would ChopBam track somebody who has announced their intent for a night action and is not believed to be scum? That just doesn't make sense.

Was typing up a post about how I'm conflicted, but I think I'm decided on lynching ChopBam. KillingYou made an unverifiable claim and continued to contribute. ChopBam made a claim that was "confirmed", but in hindsight it wasn't even really a gamble to just claim that. Then he just kind of left. I did feel like I had a town read on Irish yesterday, he's a suspect but there's nothing to go off of. Nodlied is next on my suspect list, but Shade can confirm at least some of Nodlied's claims. Out of all the remaining suspects, ChopBam has had suspicious behavior. As soon as he came out with the tracking claim he just dropped off of my radar, props to Shade for bringing him back to our attention. If I were scum and in his situation that'd be a gambit I'd probably do. ##vote ChopBam

Yeah, looking back ChopBam kind of just stopped contributing once we had cleared him.

Okay, I've only been thinking in terms of a standard night kill. Didn't think it likely that scum would fail to kill a different target (or not attempt to) and that a vig would target me.

@Shade939 I can't remember where it was exactly, but can you confirm that you got an item beginning of the game? And you know for sure that it came from Nodlied?

Okay, I guess ChopBam is not 100% cleared.

That's a very good point Shade.

If that's the case then there's very few people who are "cleared". I was assuming that the kill attempt came from the standard mafia night kill. Then again, what if that works differently this game? Didn't see anything in the D1 post about it.

Of the three options we have here's how I'd rank them and why. Nodlied -- I just don't think we're likely to have two lynchproofs. He might be telling some truth, but I don't think he's telling us everything. Irishman -- Hasn't really said or done much, I've got a null read on him for this. KillingYou -- He's at least trying to contribute, even though he doesn't have any alibi either.

He's not cleared in my book, but he did confirm Orange and Fraydo's whereabouts last night. Not confirmed town, but not the attempted killer.