Jeod

Alstar seems town at the moment to me. I will cast my vote in two hours, pending further discussion and responses to my analysis.

I'm waiting for other input. Wile it is true that catching the serial killer (unless it's a vig) would spare us from loss on MYLO, it would be more beneficial to catch scum. That said, the final nail in the coffin for me is that I believe scum killed Mojoman while you killed Category 5 out of fear. I'll cast a vote before I start work in 3 hours. P.S. ChopBam: if you're of the mind that Voe is our serial killer, then hardclaiming would be beneficial. If there's a counterclaim, then we Have a scum in you and the cc, and we can lynch Voe to save us in MYLO. If there isn't, then town has no reason to vote you.

More like Jeod just woke up and is scratching his butt. I'm gonna get some coffee and then read up on all this. I’ll start with an opening statement that I currently suspect Voe of being a hostile. What’s with the language here? Why town cops in particular? I'm not 100% sold on this, but no other leads right now. The scum went after Mojoman, who softclaimed PR, and Cat5, who is excellent at analysis. ##vote Voe This game looks dangerous for the Soviets. Right now I am reading Jeod as town. The near hammer yesterday was probably coincidence tied with his go-get-em personality. And no, we're not on a scumteam together. This is a cop softclaim if I’ve ever seen one. ChopBam is giving his report in the last sentence. Saying we’re not a scumteam together is scummy unless you take into account his claim. He’s saying why he trusts me—it’s his report. This looks like a genuine guilt trip. If the Allies have a spy with a makeup kit, he'll show up as town to a cop, which would honestly bone the cop role. I hope this isn't the case, whoever that copper is. That said, I'd like to reaffirm my super strong hunch that Jeod is town, and so we shouldn't vote for him. ChopBam is reinforcing his softclaim of cop here. In fact, he’s all but hardclaiming it. Voe has picked up on this, and is trying to get ChopBam to hardclaim. More evidence of this. Voe wants ChopBam to hardclaim to allow a counterclaim. Normally it would be a good thing as we wouldn’t be in the dark and have a 50/50 of lynching a scum on MYLO. However, Voe refuses to counterclaim. He doesn’t say “I’m not counterclaimingâ€. He says “You won’t make me counterclaim.†This implies that he could counterclaim. I can't visit people at night. There, you fished another one. Who's next on your list? Given this, it’s odd that Voe didn’t explicitly say he could not counterclaim. He’s claiming a non-visiting role here. If he were a non-visiting role, then why not say that he can’t counterclaim rather than say “you won’t make meâ€? If the Allies have a spy with a makeup kit, he'll show up as town to a cop, which would honestly bone the cop role. I hope this isn't the case, whoever that copper is. That said, I'd like to reaffirm my super strong hunch that Jeod is town, and so we shouldn't vote for him. After having established that cops should come out and help, he's putting into question their validity. You know, they may come out but they're probably wrong. At the same time, softclaiming an unspecified cop and defending Jeod? It doesn't add up. I have a counterargument for this. ChopBam is the cop. He’s questioning the validity of any who might dare to counterclaim, even saying that they’re “probably wrongâ€. If a second cop were to claim, then we would obviously need to clarify the roles. This quote does add up given all my prior arguments. With all said and done, Voe is not playing like a scum. I think he's the serial killer. Ugh, can Generalcamo fix that poorly done quote at the end? I was quoting Voe.

I'm waiting on Nodlied to explain what he supposedly did to me last night.

Are you complaining that I'm attacking you?

The art of rolefishing Voe without explicitly asking him to claim: call him retarded. Ok, so at the moment ChopBam is the sole cop softclaim. As my previous post said, I believe he softed it on Day 1. Thus, I'm inclined to believe it.

Did you even read my post or are you actually a retarded staplefahrer?

Need more info. But given this post where he either softed cop or assumed I was a cop: https://secure.w3dhub.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=416055&p=628790 It has some merit. I think he'd have gone for me as scum if he thought I was a PR. On the other hand, you're also softing a PR role here. Without hard claiming it, could you elaborate on who you visited last night and what alignment you suspect them to be? That should be ambiguous enough. A tracker can see a player didn't visit, and a cop can confirm alignment. Going about this the same way ChopBam is won't confirm a counterclaim and give us more information at the same time.

Unless I'm doing the math wrong, isn't it also possible that we have 2 scum and 1 SK/Vig?

That's it folks case closed we found our scum.

It's not much use now. I haven't been able to write anything down since just before the end of Day 1. It's basically my thought process in tunneling Verti, nothing more. So Voe. I've effectively claimed rifle soldier by showing those notes. Since you're so eager to act as a leader today, why don't you tell us a bit about yourself?

How wonderful~ We have to deal with scum and third-party. HOW WONDERFUL~ Killing_You and Alstar have yet to respond. What are your thoughts? You as well. You haven't posted any thoughts except to say that other people haven't posted theirs. I won't have time to reread the thread etc until tomorrow night, and I'm still waiting for mod confirmation on posting attachments. Until then, I'm withholding my vote.

So posting my journal will essentially be tantamount to a role claim. Is that cool? Also, question for mod: is attaching a Word document okay? I mean, you can see file creation time and edit time and stuff. That sort of thing can possibly be OGI, so best to ask beforehand.

If Nodlied is implying something should have happened to me last night, I received no PM today.

The reason I suggested a SK over a Vig was because both of the deaths were being townread, save for Mojoman who Chaos Knight voted.

A vigilante is a townsided role with the ability to kill someone at night. A serial killer is the same, but third party whose goal is to kill everyone regardless of alignment.

Also the fact that we had two NKs and a 'potential' MYLO today means there's either a vigilante or a serial killer. I'm betting on the latter since both the deaths were townie on D1.

Sure. I'll post my notes after work.

More revenge voting, Voe? Cat5 was suspicious of my tunnel on Verti, sure, but he didn't scumread me. I also did not vote Verti and didn't want him lynched, if you recall. Sorry that being at work limits the content of my posts.

Anything to report?

Yeah the two guys who saw we would be lynching a town aren't "clear". Let's go with that.

Because Verti, as insane as he is, has claimed a town role which can easily be confirmed or denied. It isn't worth lynching him when there's other information to go on.

Now see here, we're not doing a No Lynch. Can we check out Voe and KY since both are voting for Verti?

https://epicmafia.com/role/152

Isn't there a role that's normally lynchproof but will die if there are less-than-majority votes on them?