Shade939

Yeah, overall, the one thing I'll state is whatever happens don't let Orange get that Crowbar or I'm pretty certain he becomes unstoppable, and don't let Stability drop too low or else Orange might be capable of pulling off a day kill/night kill combination leaving me to see if I can somehow stop him by myself...

Also, that's till a depressing amount of time for this game to drag on if it does turn out Orange actually needs to be taken out before this game ends... Most likely because he had some day ability that let him take control of the investigation, which I'd assume would probably function if the same player is investigated twice in a row.

I'll also point out that the only time items are taken from a characters is if their status is suspicious or hostile, so someone should grab the Crowbar now instead of later, since it'll take at least four days before it could be used to forcibly change Orange's status.

Basically, assuming you actually believe that I want to achieve Pluralism, then it makes far more sense to nominate me for the vault, since that'll spread out the items between me and Retaliation and I'm also harder to hurt than Retaliation. If you don't, you have some pretty decent alternatives that should work out.

Also, in all honestly, I have to lose my defensive ability somehow.

It's a crowbar, which since I cant be targeted I should be more than capable of surviving long enough to use it against Scum if they actually do try anything.

It's more like I can't become an unstoppable juggernaut capable of achieving Pluralism by any means necessary you mean.

So, your siding with Orange on that one then?

That's honestly the simple answer, if you can trust Retaliation to pass a Pluralist reform every night, and there's nothing at all to indicate you can't so far, then you can basically afford to let yourself be locked down every night and coast your way to an easy victory. You can also nominate me for the vault so I can grab the Crowbar in case things do actually take a turn for a worse though, that'll give us some very slow leeway at least to preventing Orange from being unstoppable.

In all fairness, you have several odds things going on with your character and havne't exactly done much to disprove them. For starters, what abilities does your character have.

To be fair, he’s probably a syndicate member, so he’s basically lost the game already with everything that’s been going on.

Definitely messing around. Besides, the targeting computer was clearly on when those torpedoes were launched so they'll just going to miss the vent anyways.

Right. ##Proton Torpedo OrangeP47

Switching off targeting computer.

If I believe hard enough.

What about if I shoot Orange...?

I did point out it would take me at least three days to hurt any other player in game using the crowbar.

Realistically, what I'd most likely end up doing is preventing Scum from winning if they suddenly pulled out a NK.

The same also applies if I had to steal a Evidence Key from Orange. First night to grab the Crowbar, Second Night to steal an Evidence Key, Third Night to use Evidence Key, Fourth Night to actually change Orange's Status...

Even if I did that it would take a while to get around to carrying it out. I have to use the first night to grab the crowbar, then the second night to steal the gun, and only then on the third day would I even possibly be capable of using the Gun.

Honestly, the best bet in preventing any third parties from winning is to give me the crowbar, but naturally I like to be over prepared if anything...

Unless, Orange can steal someone's day vote for the investigation.

In all fairness though, giving Retaliation the Crowbar should work out, since Orange did grab both keys.

Problem is by the time someone can grab the Crowbar if they actually need it, it would probably be too late to use it then.

Except for if your not a Pluralist Orange.