Shade939

Admittedly, this is probably the part where I am being overly paranoid, but I believe that the passive Scum ability that my role was meant to counteract would also proc off of other Scum members dieing. Which is also my reasoning for suspecting that the Scum team might try sacrificing their own members for an easy win.

I would rather not, if I'm right and lynching a Scum member also raises WT by 15 points, then by tomorrow morning if I'm wrong about using my ability on Irish, then scum will have 80 points at the start of day 3, and we probably won't be able to kill the other two Scum members before WT hits 100. If we don't lynch anyone today, then they don't gain those 15 points so for Day 3 Scum need 35 points in order to win instead of just 20. Which does naturally make me suspicious of anyone who's suggesting any form of lynching at this time.

As I did state, my theory was based largely around my role and it's abilities and the assumptions I've made based on it. Even if I do suspect you three, I can use my ability to investigate Irishman and depending on what happens to WT, I can fairly easily disprove my own theory at the start of D3.

Ok, so locked simply means they didn't do anything and weren't role blocked or anything like that, thanks for the clarification on that.

Well, that seems a bit contradictory.

Mafia edit: what actions your character should have?

I admit, I'm now suspicious that you haven't posted any information considering what roles your character should have?

So, assuming that Scum have an ability that raised WT by 15 points whenever anyone dies plus another ability to raise it by 10 WT every night, here's what they could do now. D2 - We lynch Retaliation, he doens't have the listed Scum ability, so WT increases by 15 points. N2 - Someone dies to Scum, that's another 15 points, and they use the ability they used the first night for another 10 points. D3 - WT starts at 80 points, and we lynch Scum member two who doens't have the right ability for another 15 point gain. N3 - Wt starts at 95 points, last Scum member gets 5 WT and game ends.

I visited you since you were a Soviet, and I knew I was hunting for Soviets. Now, the secondary effect of that ability is it also lowers WT by 10 points if I visit scum, but that's going to be basically useless unless I get extremely lucky in figuring out every ability used to change WT that day.

In that case, all you have to do is prove that you're a different character then.

That's easy to explain, all of the role PM had wikipedia linkes for the character in them.

Yeah, definitely could have worded that differently to make it easier to understand, so feel free to ask for any clarification.

Slightly better Mafia ability explanation: passive ability that raised WT by 15 points whenever this player personally kills someone, or WT is raised by 15 points whenever someone dies in the game.

Well, since you asked, and it makes little sense for me to suspect this game mechanic is in play without doing a full role reveal. My character is Vasili Arkhipov, and I had one specif goal I was supposed to fulfill that was mentioned by the GM, I was supposed to stop my fellow Rusian Officer using my abilities or else the Scum Team would have a significant advantage. Since my ability was to disable a players passive abilities, I had a rather major hint on what to look out for, so I quickly reached the conclusion that WT is being raised by 15 points whenever a specific scum member kills someone through lynching, so it would be Irish or Nodlified, and Irish is the more likely suspect of the two, or whenever anyone died during the entire game from whatever cause. And, paying attention to that fact and how quickly WT raised in one night, I realized that Retailition is trying to get lynched, and so I started looking for suspects which led me to suspect ChopBam and Irish.

Here was this comment from ChopBam to start with, trying to have me not vote Irish guilty day 1, and setting himself up to be supporting my action if I really did lynch Irish who he would have known was a Warmonger.

Actually, looking at my reasoning, the main reason I suspect you three is because of how coordinated your actions seems to be and how they fall in line with my predictions of how you three would act if you were all scum on the same team.

Mainly, I'm suspicious of ChopBam because he claims that he had no idea who Curtis LeMay, even though a quick google search would have revealed the character and the fact that he would be considered a Warmonger, or the fact that our role PMs included a wikiapedia link to the characters biography.

So, I agree that Retaliation is Fidel Castro. But here's who I think the other two are that I mentioned. TheIrishman - Captain Valentin Grigorievitch Savitsky or Political Officer Ivan Semonovich Maslennikov ChopBam - Curtis LeMay

Well, at this point I suppose I should go ahead and just post my suspected Scum list. Retaliation TheIrishman ChopBam

So, how interesting is it that Retaliation is coming in to defend Irishman?

Honestly, the fact that you've waited so long to reveal your nationality and then claiming your American after another 5 players have already claimed that role is more than suspicious.

Well, after giving it some thought I'm going to go ahead and reveal one of my role abilities, mostly because I don't think it would be as worthwhile to keep it hidden as it would be to go ahead and reveal it to everyone. At the very least, I don't think that Scum are going to target me for an ability that I'd only use on other players after learning what abilities they have first. One of my abilities is the ability to actually rearm a target, which let's me restock any one shot abilities they have so they can use them again.

I have a theory that we don't have any cop/tracker/watcher roles in game and instead our role PM's themselves were supposed to basically serve that purpose. Cat 5 seemed to be quite well informed about the type of Scum that would be in game without using any abilities.

Well, here's an interesting dilemma, what happens if we lynch the wrong person and WT raises by 15 points again, plus another 25 points from what I'm assuming are the Scum's night abilities?

Does that still count if I change my vote?