Shade939
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1 minute ago, Killing You said:
Okay this is going to bug me.
Shade, I demand you take your vote on nolynch down. Unvote or put your vote on your best scumread. I don't care which.
I would rather not, if I'm right and lynching a Scum member also raises WT by 15 points, then by tomorrow morning if I'm wrong about using my ability on Irish, then scum will have 80 points at the start of day 3, and we probably won't be able to kill the other two Scum members before WT hits 100.
If we don't lynch anyone today, then they don't gain those 15 points so for Day 3 Scum need 35 points in order to win instead of just 20.
Which does naturally make me suspicious of anyone who's suggesting any form of lynching at this time.
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As I did state, my theory was based largely around my role and it's abilities and the assumptions I've made based on it.
Even if I do suspect you three, I can use my ability to investigate Irishman and depending on what happens to WT, I can fairly easily disprove my own theory at the start of D3.
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Just now, Killing You said:
It really doesn't. Irish did nothing and nobody aside from Jeod visited him.
Ok, so locked simply means they didn't do anything and weren't role blocked or anything like that, thanks for the clarification on that.
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30 minutes ago, Jeod said:
I watched TheIrishMan last night. Nobody visited him.
On 11/29/2017 at 5:00 PM, TheIrishman said:Oh and I didn't do anything last night, my stuff is locked.
Well, that seems a bit contradictory.
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Just now, Shade939 said:
I admit, I'm now suspicious that you haven't posted any information considering what roles your character should have?
Mafia edit: what actions your character should have?
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9 minutes ago, ChopBam said:
Prove my character, as nobody else who's alive has done?
Or claim my character, as you and a few others have done? I'll claim if it makes you happy.
Richard S. Heyser, USAF, at your command. You can look up the wiki article yourself and connect the dots that the title does not have "Curtis" or "LeMay" in it.
I admit, I'm now suspicious that you haven't posted any information considering what roles your character should have?
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So, assuming that Scum have an ability that raised WT by 15 points whenever anyone dies plus another ability to raise it by 10 WT every night, here's what they could do now.
D2 - We lynch Retaliation, he doens't have the listed Scum ability, so WT increases by 15 points.
N2 - Someone dies to Scum, that's another 15 points, and they use the ability they used the first night for another 10 points.
D3 - WT starts at 80 points, and we lynch Scum member two who doens't have the right ability for another 15 point gain.
N3 - Wt starts at 95 points, last Scum member gets 5 WT and game ends.
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2 minutes ago, Killing You said:
Now this is a development. This pretty much confirms to me that our suspected bote captain hellbent on nuking the US is in play.
One thing irks me, though. You said that your night ability disables passives. Yet you also state that you managed to lower World Tension N1, and in your statement you seem to imply that you already used today's discussion to select your suspects when using your night action. Can you clarify what you did N1?
I visited you since you were a Soviet, and I knew I was hunting for Soviets. Now, the secondary effect of that ability is it also lowers WT by 10 points if I visit scum, but that's going to be basically useless unless I get extremely lucky in figuring out every ability used to change WT that day.
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Just now, ChopBam said:
Huh, that's cool. And I got a wiki link too, but for my real character. Not Curtis LeMay. This is a basic concept to me. Is anybody besides Shade not getting it?
In that case, all you have to do is prove that you're a different character then.
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Just now, ChopBam said:
I'm still completely at a loss for why you think I was supplied with a wiki link to Curtis LeMay.
On 11/29/2017 at 4:16 PM, OrangeP47 said:Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy
Alignment: Town
Nationality: American
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_F._Kennedy
Actions:
##injunction - Night Action
##brotherly love - Night Action
That's easy to explain, all of the role PM had wikipedia linkes for the character in them.
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Yeah, definitely could have worded that differently to make it easier to understand, so feel free to ask for any clarification.
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Slightly better Mafia ability explanation: passive ability that raised WT by 15 points whenever this player personally kills someone, or WT is raised by 15 points whenever someone dies in the game.
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3 minutes ago, ChopBam said:
So you're trying to get a pass by being the new guy. See below:
Yet, after all this newbie grandstanding, you jump on me when I try to use your start of a bandwagon as a teaching moment. I call double standard, and I'm not sure whether to chalk that up to true inexperience of if you're actually hiding something.
Well, since you asked, and it makes little sense for me to suspect this game mechanic is in play without doing a full role reveal.
My character is Vasili Arkhipov, and I had one specif goal I was supposed to fulfill that was mentioned by the GM, I was supposed to stop my fellow Rusian Officer using my abilities or else the Scum Team would have a significant advantage.
Since my ability was to disable a players passive abilities, I had a rather major hint on what to look out for, so I quickly reached the conclusion that WT is being raised by 15 points whenever a specific scum member kills someone through lynching, so it would be Irish or Nodlified, and Irish is the more likely suspect of the two, or whenever anyone died during the entire game from whatever cause.
And, paying attention to that fact and how quickly WT raised in one night, I realized that Retailition is trying to get lynched, and so I started looking for suspects which led me to suspect ChopBam and Irish.
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On 11/28/2017 at 1:31 PM, OrangeP47 said:
Vote counted!
CVC
Current World Tension Level: 0
Nodlied voted Voe
Jeod voted no one
TheIrishman voted no one
FRAYDO voted no one
ChopBam voted no one
Killing_You voted TheIrishMan
Voe voted no one
Cat 5 voted no one
Shade voted TheIrishMan
Retaliation voted no one
Mojoman voted no one
TheIrishMan leads with 3/11 votes cast!On 11/28/2017 at 1:38 PM, ChopBam said:Generally Shade, you'd be noted as suspicious for following KY's lead to vote so quickly, but I think it's excusable in this case as you're new and it's also the first day, so our leads are meager at best. Also who knows, we might strike gold. But I'd like to hear what Irish has to say before day end, if anything, before making a decision.
How does it feel to finally be playing in a warmongers game, rather than just hosting it?
Here was this comment from ChopBam to start with, trying to have me not vote Irish guilty day 1, and setting himself up to be supporting my action if I really did lynch Irish who he would have known was a Warmonger.
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Just now, TheIrishman said:
I'd like to hear what you have to support your claims, because I mostly agree with them if I'm excluded from it.
Actually, looking at my reasoning, the main reason I suspect you three is because of how coordinated your actions seems to be and how they fall in line with my predictions of how you three would act if you were all scum on the same team.
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On 11/28/2017 at 1:55 AM, Category 5 Hurricane said:
ChopBam, with the combination of your avatar and your nationality claim, you appear to me to effectively be claiming to be Curtis LeMay. Am I reading too much into this?
On 11/28/2017 at 2:17 AM, ChopBam said:I can see why you'd come to that conclusion. No dice though, as my avatar doesn't directly correlate to my character. I'm not much of a history buff anyway, but I thought the AF general would be a cool avatar as I loved playing him in GenZH, as much cheese as he offers (shut up Nodlied).
21 hours ago, ChopBam said:Again, I can see where you'd get this but until Cat5 pointed out the coincidental connection, I didn't know who Curtis LeMay was. So again, it's purely coincidental, and even if it wasn't, at the time I had no reason to deny being him even if I was him. Cat5 wouldn't have suspected me even if I claimed to be LeMay, so the possible argument that I silenced Cat5 because he was "onto me" is a nonexistent connection at best. I'm waiting for somebody to pursue that argument though so I can get some more solid leads.
Although...
I'm skeptical of this, if you ask me.
Mainly, I'm suspicious of ChopBam because he claims that he had no idea who Curtis LeMay, even though a quick google search would have revealed the character and the fact that he would be considered a Warmonger, or the fact that our role PMs included a wikiapedia link to the characters biography.
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So, I agree that Retaliation is Fidel Castro.
But here's who I think the other two are that I mentioned.
TheIrishman - Captain Valentin Grigorievitch Savitsky or Political Officer Ivan Semonovich Maslennikov
ChopBam - Curtis LeMay
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Well, at this point I suppose I should go ahead and just post my suspected Scum list.
Retaliation
TheIrishman
ChopBam
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So, how interesting is it that Retaliation is coming in to defend Irishman?
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7 minutes ago, TheIrishman said:
With only two people left who haven't exposed their alignments, if there is someone with an alignment oriented goal, it'd be pretty easy to guess so I'll just throw it out there. I'm an American too. If we want to avoid giving the imaginary TP (imaginary, because we don't know if they exist in this game) too much of an advantage in the next warmonger game, like Cat 5 said, we shouldn't be so hasty to line ourselves up as targets.
Honestly, the fact that you've waited so long to reveal your nationality and then claiming your American after another 5 players have already claimed that role is more than suspicious.
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Well, after giving it some thought I'm going to go ahead and reveal one of my role abilities, mostly because I don't think it would be as worthwhile to keep it hidden as it would be to go ahead and reveal it to everyone. At the very least, I don't think that Scum are going to target me for an ability that I'd only use on other players after learning what abilities they have first.
One of my abilities is the ability to actually rearm a target, which let's me restock any one shot abilities they have so they can use them again.
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4 minutes ago, Jeod said:
I suggested McCarthy to Nodlied as a jab, not as a hint to my role. My statement that I was gay for Kennedy, however, was a hint to my role and I presume Cat5 picked up on it. Are there seriously no cop/tracker/watcher reports on any players?
I have a theory that we don't have any cop/tracker/watcher roles in game and instead our role PM's themselves were supposed to basically serve that purpose.
On 11/28/2017 at 1:17 AM, Category 5 Hurricane said:I'm going to avoid the nationality question for now, as the fact that nationality is given as part of your roles makes me suspect it's important for something. So instead, I'll reveal that I'm a diplomat.
I currently expect all players will fit into one of these roles: Diplomats, Military Leaders, and Naval Officers. I think we'll find one Mafia in each of those categories. Currently thinking 3 Mafia. GM basically described the motivations for three different people and would fit the motivations of the people I think would most likely be Mafia. A Diplomat who doesn't want to back down, a Military Leader that thinks they can win out right, and a Naval Officer who would rather just let the world burn.
That's just spitballing based on how I think I'd setup a game based on this theme, though. It just makes sense to me. We don't know how far ahistorical OrangeP47 has set this game, though my character seems pretty much historical.
Cat 5 seemed to be quite well informed about the type of Scum that would be in game without using any abilities.
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Well, here's an interesting dilemma, what happens if we lynch the wrong person and WT raises by 15 points again, plus another 25 points from what I'm assuming are the Scum's night abilities?
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2 minutes ago, Mojoman said:
ALL NEWBIES WHO VOTE NOLYNCH MUST DIE.
THUS SAYETH THE GHOST OF KAMUIXMOD
Does that still count if I change my vote?
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[Game Over-Warmonger Victory] Cuban Missile Crisis Mafia
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Admittedly, this is probably the part where I am being overly paranoid, but I believe that the passive Scum ability that my role was meant to counteract would also proc off of other Scum members dieing.
Which is also my reasoning for suspecting that the Scum team might try sacrificing their own members for an easy win.