Shade939

So, looking at Jeod's role he's set up where he has several items he can activate to directly counter Town roles in game, this is because we know how items work, and we know what a one time passive ability would have to be used to do. And the Hunter Killer would have been the item set up to directly get around Louis's roleblock. Which then leaves the Technology Scrambler, and the only remaining Town role it should counter, which sounds like Irish instead of Category 5's ability?

Also, if you want a relevant example in the book Dune, a Harkonnen agent uses it while trapped inside an actual wall to try and kill the duke's son.

It sound exactly like you could still use it to kill someone even if you were trapped in jail without leaving jail doesn't it?

The drone, seems rather obvious doesn't' it with no tracker or watcher claims.

He would have naturally had a duplicate item of Jeod's?

He would have needed to use one of Jeod's items wouldn't he? And he would have had to know that he would be targeted before he used it, instead of Irish?

By the way, make certain you're here to vote this time, you might need to win the game for Town. Also, I might need your flavor knowledge of Dune to back me up.

And now I'll be off, so make Irishman speak up more or something.

Here's a relevant post about your reaction to Jeod's claims that does support my theory.

It would be more obvious if Irish flipped as Town after being lynched, disproving that role blocking him had stopped the NK. And pointing back to Louis perhaps targeting Jeod instead with her action.

To get himself lynched perhaps, to avoid someone asking the question I'm basically asking now.

@ Category 5 Hurricane , a likely scenario is you're a second jailer because of your ability, and jailed Irish also. That would necessitate, either you outing yourself as a secondary jailer, or claiming to have redirected Louis's jail action to Irish to hide the fact that two players had really been jailed that night.

Good point, unfortunately, that is part of the reasoning why I suspect that you're Scum. And are really annoyed at Jeod as your partner and his claims.

Hugh, nevermind, I can entertain Louis being mafia then... Fairly easily then, Louis role blocks Jeod by targeting Irish.

Also, I find it extremely difficult to picture Louis and Jeod being on the same team, so I can't really even entertain Louis being mafia. From her viewpoint, she should have been claiming to role block Jeod when there was no NK at all.

Depends on who she role blocks.

This part here of the OP.

To be frank, that's one of those weird claim that sounds like it just might actually be true. I'd consider it to be a really good ability claim at the very least.

Yep, although, you know what Louis doesn't have any longer, a shield since she used it up already.

You can ignore that, flavor text mistake.

Mafia obviously tried to NK Louis last night to eliminate her role block ability, and she very wisely activated her shield. That would be fine, except for she really did the unexpected and went for Retaliation of all players, allowing Irish to investigate the next most suspicious players other than Category 5?

By the way @ Category 5 Hurricane , just how bad is your luck if you're Mafia right now?

If irish is lieing and is Scum, then that means Chopbam cannot be the last scum player. If Chopbam is Scum, then Irish is Town with an investigative ability, he used his item to help out with his ability to find Scum. That would suggest it would counter anything Chopbam could do.

And the assumption that at most one of them can be scum.

Mostly how Irish stating Chopbam is Town must be true, since Chopbam shouldn't be capable of fooling Irish's action based on the extra item used.