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He changed the claim obviously. He said he would protect Jeod, I did called him on that today and he didn't said anything :V

Based on what I deduced I don't think Nodlied could kill Jeod unless iLTS was lying about protecting Jeod. So either Sunflower killed Jeod or iLTS.

##vote Sunflower Let's put some pressure here first.

Jeod was NKed, meaning he was most likely town. Cat5 is most likely town. Nodlied is most likely the hider as he said since we figured out there's no janitor. KY is a cop vig which means town. I'm town. Shade had a shady day action but as one of the confirmed blockers in the game he's most likely town since Orange isn't. Who's left? Chopbam, Sunflower, iLTS. If we can clear chopbam with cat5 and Jeod returning (hopefully), we can clearly say that the remaining people are scum: Sunflower and LTS, Orange as either TP or scum. There we go, mafia case solved.

And it's also very interesting that Sunflower is teaming up with Orange and iLTS - two of the most suspicious people next to Chopbam. I think I'm getting a clear picture who the scum is in the game.

Nobody seems to touch the fact that the only NK we had so far in the game was where iLTS claimed to "protect" his target.

That wasn't confirmed yet, and thanks to you too 😛

Right now I think shade is less scummy than iLTS. And Orange is confirmed non town. If we are suppose to test anything (even the flips), safest lynch is still Orange,no matter how you look at it.

He SHOULD, it was bad GMing on his part. Day actions don't work like they are there "just b/c of flavor" not confirming anything or not doing anything. If you have designed this role then it's your fault

We don't know yet if flips are back. Even cat5 didn't flip back.

I know some people are more sensitive to animals or even their own virtual pets getting hurt rather than being sensitive to other people getting hurt -- but still it's just another game where violence happens as it is suppose to be a fictional world war. Dogs were in original Red Alert, I think it was the first RTS that introduce them as viable unit and it continued in other sequels and games. No reason not to include it because it's an animal.

True that, but we've had this discussion before that at least one roleblocker would not be town, and here we go, Orange admit that one already.

I said I'm not decided yet. But for now logically I don't want to lynch anyone since we don't learn if they are scum or TP. Orange is the only one who we know is not town. We can test Shade but if isn't lynchproof (for whatever reason), we won't learn his true alignment. So for me no point to lynch until we find a solid proof. If you have other opinion that's your thing.

If you think so go for it.

I already said that I don't trust you more than Shade when go down to "lynch because he lies" reason.

If he wants to test it it's up to him really. Personally I would not like see another mysterious dead guy by the end of the day. Even if guys are tp or scum, I would really want to see what they actually are goddamit.

@Shade939are you ok testing your lynchproof for ilts today? If you're town you shouldn't worry unless you have some really good excuse (which you seem to always have :p)

The only one who we're sure is not town currently is Orange. So if anything, he's the safest lynch atm. Anyone else we can only speculate.

You could also probably be scum. Your doctor claim failed on Jeod, remember? I have no reason to suspect Shade more of lying than you actually. Anyway, let's say Shade does lie. He may be either scum or TP or hiding some facts for other uknown reason. Thing is, we won't learn it since we don't get a flip. If Shade is telling the truth however, we won't learn much other than he was lynchproof today. Unless we have solid proof that someone is indeed scum, we shouldn't attempt to lynch anyone else anymore. That being said, I'm still not decided.

I'm not decided yet but I guess we should really wait until flips return or we get cat5/jeod back for more info regarding chop/orange argument. ##vote Nolynch

These multigender vampire shenanigans... Do you identify as a undead mummified ghostly vampire?

It's also a good point to consider that infantry combat in AR and APB are very much different, the dog in APB as it is in AR would not perform as good as one might think. In fact I believe it would actually suck. Maps are more narrow, not so open, no big building interiors, infantry are more accurate and have better ROF in general (plus better anti infantry roles such as captains, starshinas, nades, flamethrowers, etc). So really comparing how dogs are in AR doesn't mean they will be same for APB. In the end both games should have quite different dog balance and mechanics.

Curious. If you were a SK, who would you target in this scenario?