Killing_You

That's an odd thought, and one that I honestly doubt. In our masonry yesterday, we started off suspecting you and him, but then moved to just seeing him as scum.

Something's not right here. I can't tell if this is the scum team giving up, or what. It feels way too close to hammer for it to be a ploy. It's not enough to move my vote, though. If Cat5 flips town, my sights are going onto iLikeToSnipe. I'm pretty sure everyone will turn on me in that instance. And honestly... part of me is wondering if we only started with 2 scum. That being said, there's not enough time or evidence for me to try to go into a different direction.

I'm still firmly in the camp that the scum team is Cat5/ChopBam. It's the only pairing that makes sense to me. As for FRAYDO, I don't know if it's a test, a momentary lapse in judgement, or both. FRAYDO's still my strongest town read.

I did trust you, and frankly I still do. I'm just having a hard time understanding this lapse in judgement.

Thank you!

(also pardon my absence, but I just got back from an interview)

Excuse me, what? I gave you a boost. Your night action went from 50/50 to 100% because of me. Ask yourself; why would I do that as scum?

I was about to say... that took a dark turn.

Aaand thanks for locking in my suspicions. You're doing your best to sow doubt on everyone with the exception of yourself, Cat5, and FRAYDO. FRAYDO's my strongest townread right now, so that leaves Cat5. Here's a question; if you're town, then what has you so worried? The majority is on your suspicions, and you're lynchproof, so what's the harm in patiently waiting to see what happens? After all, perhaps you're right, and perhaps you're wrong. You're looking like someone who's desperate to keep their partner off of the lynch table (Cat5 in this case). Do you know something we don't?

I'm not in a masonry with anyone, and my cooldown is longer than I anticipated. I have to wait until Night 5. Not that it really matters. Your desperation is showing hard.

I don't see the desperation you're seeing. If anything you seem desperate because you have a scum buddy on the lynch table.

No. Bad. *sprays water* Back to the dead doc.

Also, this puts Louis more on the Town side, now that I think about it. If she was scum, she would've gotten this advice already from her partners in the scumdoc.

Anytime. Really, it's a constant learning experience. The most important thing is to not get discouraged.

I think I'm going to go ahead and get off the Louis case. On the surface that quick double vote combined with her and ChopBam backing each other today looked rather scummy. But reading back through... that's it. Even then, it almost feels as if Chop was banking on Louis's desperation to clear herself as a proxy defense for himself. Cat5, on the other hand, has quietly taken advantage of this in the opposite direction. He brought up a possible slip on Louis's part, but left it to us to push on it. My earlier case on him, even sans Meta, still stands in my eyes. I think iLTS did a decent job building a case himself. ##vote Category 5 Hurricane Also, Louis, a little advice from someone who was in the same boat a few years ago: Don't worry too much about being confirmed. Nothing will ever be 100% anyway. This is a game of trust and deception, not facts, and being concerned with your town standing is generally considered scummy. I'd recommend focusing less on how Town sees you and more about how you see other people.

The short version is in the post you're quoting, and has been brought up. I've got some time, though; I'll go ahead and grab the long version.

I don't like this. Chop and Louis have been heavily in sync the whole day, and those two votes right next to each other don't help. xxvote ChopBam Nah, just kidding. ##vote Louis

I'm against a nolynch. Just because we can't hit CHop today doesn't mean we can't try to get his scum partner. And on the off-chance that Chop is somehow town, then the remaining scumteam is out in the open. Good eye. That might be enough to make me lean toward a possible Louis lynch. If nothing else happens between now and hammer, I'll put my vote on her.

Here's where I'm at; Everything points to Chop being scum. Everything also points to there being two scum members. However, I'm having trouble rationalizing who that scummate is. It's definitely not FRAYDO, and my gut tells me it's not Mojo (scum team having a warp star PLUS a one-time lynchproof passive AND three members total? That's crazy imbalanced). iLikeToSnipe came into the game late, and opened by trying to build a case on Chop based on him skimming over some important info, which I don't think would happen if they were a scum team together. For me, that leaves either Louis or Category 5, and I'm having trouble deciding. There's a case for Cat5, but his responses today and the reveal of his item make me doubt this possibility. As for Louis... I don't think there's a strong enough case there. At least not yet. That could be an interesting possibility worth looking into. We'll have to assume that the 1UP didn't come from Verti at all if this is the case, however.

That's a hell of a game changer. ##unvote I don't feel like voting Louis just yet, however. I want to get a more detailed case down first.

Mojoman as well.

There isn't. I've been iffy on him most of the game, but right now FRAYDO trusts him and I trust FRAYDO. I've also liked how his cases have been built today.

Items and abilities that have to be activated aren't the same as a flat-out passive, as is the case with Mojo. It was stated D2.

Okay, that's fair. This, however, isn't. You seem like you're putting the gas back on the Chop train now that the spotlight is on you. For my part, a couple things. One, I don't like the idea of scum having a lynchproof, even if it's one time. Two, I can't rationalize the idea of a Mojo/Chop/Orange scum team, and since you're looking scummy, I'm discounting Mojo for the moment. I could see a scenario where a scum has a one-time lynchproof due to a reduced team size, but a Mojo/Orange only team makes no sense. That would assume that you're town and you blocked Orange N1, and we know Mojo blocked Shade, so there was no way either of them killed Verti in that circumstance.

Given the evidence, yes. I'm gonna make a trash run, be right back.