Killing_You

It appears my hunch was right. Between Shade's usual distracting shenanigans and Donkey Kong causing a shit Banana storm, I've missed something very important: Category 5 Hurricane has been behaving out of character. At least, for a town Cat5. Day 2, these are his posts where he expresses displeasure with iLikeToSnipe. Granted, a lot of us had our suspicions about iLTS at that time, but Cat 5 never says why. The closest he gets is when he mentions Mojo using his hammer on iLTS. But would he really think scum would risk daykilling their partner? Especially so soon after one scum was daykilled already? See a pattern? His posts mostly consist of one or two sentences with no real substance to them. And here's his biggest post at that point in the game. Notice how it's all about defending himself rather than giving his input on the other players? Normally Cat5 considers clearing himself to be somewhat of a secondary objective. He'll do it, but he puts most of his focus on scumhunting. Not the response I'd expect from a town Cat5. Town Cat5 would bring up this explanation, and use this as the basis of his case. At this point the Chop train was already well-underway, and a Chop lynch was also unlikely, thanks to both the Warp Star existing and Donkey Kong shenanigans. But look at his wording. Let's keep this in mind. Day 4 starts, and this is how he opens the day. It feels a little like he pulled back the brakes on Chop for seemingly no reason. Still gotta keep the suspicions going around, eh? And here, on Day FOUR, we finally get what looks like a typical Cat5 post. Even then, however, there's some issues. Look at how heavily he seems to suspect Mojo and iLTS. He's done so all game, and yet has never fully explained his reasoning on either of them. More importantly, however, look at his section on Chop. It's a whole lot of fluff that boils down to "The evidence says he's scum, but does it really?" Overall, his interactions with ChopBam felt like two players pushing on each other when it's convenient, only to back off and try to deter suspicion away from each other. This is exactly what I expect from a scum Cat5. A town Cat5 would be making this kind of post far earlier, and would be more solid with his reads and bring harder evidence. I was tempted to quote examples from a game where Cat5 was town (APB Mafia 1) and a game where Cat5 was scum (Battle of the Gods Mafia), but I don't know if that's allowed, so I won't do so. Besides, I think this case is solid enough. ##vote Category 5 Hurricane

Pls quit memeing I am doing an investigate

Since you're here Cat5, I'd like your full thoughts on this game. I'll be doing a full analysis in the morning, and I'd like to hear what you have to say.

Actually, I'll get to this in the morning. I want be thinking as straight as possible so that I don't miss anything. For now, all I will say is this: We've made plenty of assumptions and ran with them. Specifically, I've been writing Cat5 off as Town because that's what he usually is and because there have been other, more obvious cases. I want to take a second look at him and challenge my own reads. Maybe the answer is somewhere in there.

I had an epiphany while writing this. The crux of the case against ChopBam is based on the idea that the 1UP he possesses was Verti's that he took when he killed him. Here's the thing; we don't know any of this for a fact. We're assuming that it was Verti's in the first place solely because he was Dr Mario. This looked strong at first, but if we consider the 1UP coming from somewhere else, it's a lot flimsier. I've got another direction to go in. I'll be back soon.

The only two players Chop has blocked this game are you and Orange. Chop didn't reveal that he had a 1UP, and when asked about it he didn't give straight answers. The train of thought here is that Chop has been working with his scummates to falsify claims in order to "clear" them. I'd gather the evidence right now, but as stated above, I want to put it on hold for a second. I want to see what Cat5 has to say.

Right now? I trust FRAYDO, and I somewhat trust iLikeToSnipe. I do think there's a case to be made for you and Chop to be on a team, but I'm waiting for Cat5 to respond to my question before moving forward. I want to keep my options open.

At the same time as all this though, something's dug into the back of my mind... Hey @Category 5 Hurricane who were your targets the past few nights?

One way to find out. Try doing the thing.

I see... And the only other person ChopBam blocked was Orange...

That would be the order of events, yes.

No. I boosted FRAYDO last night, so I can't bring anyone else into my gym until tomorrow night.

Excellent. Hopefully it all goes well.

So your hammer was everything? What, pray tell, happened to the N1 Roleblock?

I mean, forgive me for making an assumption, but that's the part that got me. Now I'm a little confused, but I suppose it doesn't matter.

Oh. I made an assumption based on the reveal flavor, and the fact that it seems very similar to a scum action I had in the past (which did protect me from votes placed on me before I used it).

You probably would've been safe from the votes. Everyone would've just been forced to unvote you. That does make sense with iLikeToSnipe, though, especially since that's what he tried to do. You kind of forced our hand, but fair enough.

But since we can't lynch you, we might as well look elsewhere. I feel like my case on Mojo from D2 still mostly stands (even though it falls apart if Chop is scum). In my mind, it's one or the other, but not both. Anyone else want to weigh in on this? Also @FRAYDO how did your plan go?

You could have waited until closer to lynch time. You could've swayed us elsewhere without using that item unless absolutely necessary.

And your result? While I do agree that Mojo probably shouldn't be 100% cleared, at the same time you're all over the place. You almost seem like you're desperately trying to throw suspicions off of yourself rather than trying to actually mount a proper defense for yourself, or a case on someone else. You have plenty of time to do both now.

Makes sense. I should've caught that with the inhale. So where do we go from here?

A huge problem. By the way, where's your mask now?

TP/Neutral Nodlied is never anti-Town. He's always put Town goals before his own. It's to the point where he was willing to sacrifice his win condition as a townie during Death Note to help Town win.

That's a twist. At least you're being helpful.

Town. Full stop. He's been very forthcoming and helpful.