ChopBam

Being as this was Cat5's last post here, these are some pretty weak points, if I'm to be honest. "We must be missing something." This would only be the case if Cat5 is town, which is nearly impossible for me to see right now seeing alibis. Reviewing vote trains, how would that accomplish more right now than seeing solid alibis, especially when we wouldn't know who scum is, so it's hard to know who's saving whom? Seems like an attempted distraction. Why would Cat5 suspect that he won't survive the night? First off, if he's a hider, he's got a really good chance of surviving. And secondly, he's a prime scum suspect, so if he's town, why the hell would scum target him when someone like Sunflower is still around? And now we have further evidence that Nodlied is town, which in two ways renders that last paragraph of a case against him and KY to be pretty dim. In addition to this Nodlied evidence, my direct N1 alignment result on KY was neutral.

Interesting.. it doesn't for me.

Does it look new on, say, page 1 though?

First off I suspected him as a scum roleblocked, and then there was the gimmick as well. Secondly, in the event Nodlied was town, I'm assuming Cat5 has some sort of night protection, so clearing others is the next best thing to legit copping scum. No, I think it's a bug caused by quoting certain combinations of other quotes. Only happens on pages where that specific quote type exists. His absence is saying a lot, actually.

I suppose it's time to finally lay my own cards on the table. I'm the cop. KY came up neutral on N1 and Nodlied came up town on N3. The only way KY could not be neutral was if I was insane, or he had something that would screw with a cop report. I don't think I'm insane, because Nodlied came up as town and did a townie thing with the pumpkin. Something else I've considered is whether the Mason from Orange has turned KY from neutral to Mafia after my cop report. This does not explain the attempt on FRAYDO N1 however. It would seem Cat5 is the only person who could have done that, as Orange and KY were both busy.

If they had a scumdoc together, what do you think? Would they would be so open to the rest of us about having it?

Here's something that occurred to me: would the game be considered as balanced with 6 town and 3 hostiles?

FRAYDO was attempted too, although he's still alive. But I did mean Mojo. Somebody really killed him.

I think Category 5 is by far our strongest lead. Somebody killed Mojoman, and Cat 5 has no alibi or other-player confirmation for that night, nor any other night. ##vote Category 5

Yes, and that is also precisely what I'm trying to do. So far it's succeeded.

I wanted to see if he was lying.

Has KY been seen as neutral outside of his own claims and what I've said about him? If anything, a bussing role should be seen as third party if not worse.

I say let's see if FRAYDO has it. That would have been a very safe person to give it to, actually.

You're also a lot safer from Endermen.

Latest preliminary charts are in. I'd say it's down to a fight here between Cat5, OrangeP47, and Killing_You. Killing You being scum would only be possible with some kind of nighttime protection, but that is certainly possible now that I think about it. Category 5 would also have nighttime protection, and could explain away both that and his unverifiable night actions with a Hider claim. OrangeP47 would have gotten town off his back early on in the game by rolecopping the NK target, but this still doesn't make 100% sense to me unless things were switched on the scum and the NK/rolecop happened to land on FRAYDO in an unplanned way. D1 N1 D2 N2 D3 N3 Category 5 <No Vote> Hid behind Louis Received amulet from Louis OrangeP47 Hid behind Louis Louis ChopBam OrangeP47 Visited KY No Lynch Attempted to visit Nodlied Roleblocked Received amulet Louis Visited Nodlied Amulet passed FRAYDO FRAYDO Passed ticket to iLTS Forced to follow Jeod to Nodlied iLikeToSnipe Passed ticket to KY <No Vote> Killing_You Spare Voe BUS DRIVER / Nodlied iLikeToSnipe BUS DRIVER / ChopBam Louis BUS DRIVER / Category 5 Nodlied Voe Redirected to Mojoman, Forcing Dutch gimmick <No Vote> Was put into/given a pumpkin Roleblocked ChopBam and Jeod Cat5 Gave pumpkin to Sunflower OrangeP47 Voe Masonry w/ KY Used profiler on FRAYDO iLikeToSnipe RNG Tracked Louis, (saw no actions) Passed profiler Louis Sunflower Voe Doctored FRAYDO No Lynch Doctored Orange Louis Pumpkin received, Doctored self (and one other?) iLikeToSnipe Voe Received ticket from FRAYDO Gave FRAYDO bonus action No Lynch / Dead --- --- --- Mojoman Jeod Visited Nodlied <No Vote> Died --- --- Jeod Spare Voe Masonry w/ Nodlied iLikeToSnipe Roleblocked Died --- --- Louis Spare Voe Passed amulet to Cat5 No action claim <No Vote> Attempted steal from Jeod, but no items Lynched --- [RESULT] Effectively No Lynch NK failed, FRAYDO was saved iLTS died town Mojoman died town Louis died TP NK failed, Sunflower was saved

While I'm more confident in my nighttime ability now, I'm actually less confident about the KY read. It's possible he has nighttime protection that would make me suspect him less.

@Killing_You whom did you visit?

Also I managed to pass the amulet away, but it was NOT confirmed that it was given to my intended target (Cat5).

I am not your tracker. FRAYDO did misread that bit.

Nice one! I managed to get through to Nodlied last night. What I saw of him, combined with the fact Sunflower had two saves last night thanks to Nodlied, is confirmation to me that Nodlied is town.

Heh, I guess that renders moot my whole ordeal with figuring out her partner.

To elaborate here, my role could be screwy.

I am absolutely 85% sure. On top of my role action though, KY seemed genuine at the beginning of the day with regard to targeting me. IDK, what's your read on that exchange?

Clearly the bastion of altruism.

Oh good then, bye bye now sleep nice.