ChopBam

Well, in case I die before I get another chance to post a chart, here goes: D1 N1 D2 N2 D3 Category 5 <No Vote> Hid behind Louis Received amulet from Louis OrangeP47 Hid behind Louis fuck Louis ChopBam OrangeP47 Visited KY No Lynch Attempted to visit Nodlied Roleblocked Received amulet FRAYDO FRAYDO Passed ticket to iLTS Forced to follow Jeod to Nodlied iLikeToSnipe Passed ticket to KY Killing_You Spare Voe BUS DRIVER / Nodlied iLikeToSnipe BUS DRIVER / ChopBam Nodlied Voe Redirected to Mojoman, Forcing Dutch gimmick <No Vote> Was put into/given a pumpkin Roleblocked ChopBam and Jeod OrangeP47 Voe Masonry w/ KY Used profiler on FRAYDO iLikeToSnipe RNG Tracked Louis, (saw no actions) Passed profiler Sunflower Voe Doctored FRAYDO No Lynch Doctored Orange iLikeToSnipe Voe Received ticket from FRAYDO Gave FRAYDO bonus action No Lynch / Dead --- Mojoman Jeod Visited Nodlied <No Vote> Died Jeod Spare Voe Masonry w/ Nodlied iLikeToSnipe Roleblocked Killed by Louis Louis Spare Voe Passed amulet to Cat5 No action claim <No Vote> Attempted steal from Jeod, but no items Lynched [RESULT] Effectively No Lynch NK failed, FRAYDO was saved iLTS died town Mojoman died town Louis was lynched!

Also fuck, losing another town member has been so very not good.

Well it's a good thing then that you don't have it.

I think she said it's random?

Nah the other 15% is actually related to the nature of my night action. Bahhh this just rubs me the wrong way in the light of my previous argument, further strengthening it in my mind, but OK.

There is a chance the KY is third party but I'm 85% sure he's actually neutral.

I don't think Killing You shares our alignment, but he's also not scum. He seems to have been working with us this game, so while he'd be a "safe lynch" were we to worry about another mislynch, it also wouldn't nail scum if we were to lynch him, which doesn't help further our cause of eliminating all hostiles.

Is it a rolecop or an alignmentcop?

Do you know for sure that your RNG target was Louis? I guess it wouldn't make sense if your action was RNG and you were never told your target. :V

Yes, but it'd have to be wrong anyway because she said she went somewhere.

This is what I'd be leaning toward. She claims night BP after all, but as scum this could be translated to a more general night protection and the BP would be the lie.

Louis could have done the kill both nights, yes?

Do you think this lends him townie points? If you and Nodlied are both definitely town, I might reconsider my vote on Louis. But there's no way to know this.

Not sure I understand. Nodlied hasn't been very forthcoming with his actions to me this game. Sort of a "go back and look," and when I do, his original claims were cryptic. Can you elaborate? Yes, she's unverified both nights afaik.

Looking at last night's kill suspects and today's arguments though, it's pretty clear to me that I should go ahead and, for now, ##vote Louis Change my mind.

It's unlikely in a game of this size that there'd be only one scum. If Nodlied stops being a potential scum partner for Louis, the next best likelihood is Jeod (with Louis half-heartedly throwing shade at him and voting for him to create distance.). Failing this, I'd be willing to consider that Louis is town. To think otherwise would not be diligent unless we have an explanation for any of the other players being matched up with Louis. Potential bad scum slip-ups are another possibility, but at this point it gets to WIFOM arguments.

I'm looking back through several pages to see if I can find any connections between Louis and a potential partner. Biggest one to jump out at me is Nodlied, who doesn't really seem to be addressing the Louis controversy at all. Category 5 Unlikely. Cat5's surprise at receiving an item seemed genuine. Made hider claim before Louis item pass claim. Cat5 voting for Louis. ChopBam Quick to point out Louis as one of the two biggest suspects for the Mojokill, and to point out the discrepancy between Orange's report and Louis' visit claim. FRAYDO Confirmed neutral (??? this is based off something Orange said and FRAYDO confirmed) Claimed someone tried to kill him, confirmed saved by Sunflower Jeod They've been at each other's throats all day. Could be faked? Maybe, maybe not, but Louis was quick to vote for Jeod. Killing_You 99% positive he's not scum. Quick to vote Louis. Nodlied Could be scum roleblocker? Doesn't appear to be fighting for or against Louis. OrangeP47 Discrepancy between RNG tracking report and Louis' visit claim makes it very dubious that he'd be on a scumteam with her. Sunflower I think we can all agree she's pretty low on the scum possibilities.

How very townie of you. Is it at least not your choice for this to happen?

Also I will reiterate that I am quite positively sure that Killing You is not scum. So Louis' "no u" is even more meaningless to me.

My night action has the potential to determine whether Cat5 is really a hider. However, if he's hiding behind someone and I attempt to visit him, will my action not work? I guess that might also be some kind of verification. UNLESS, he actually has a passive roleblock and uses the hiding claim to get away with both that and a nightkill.

To me it's a total tossup between Louis and Cat5. They're both completely unverified and they're both acting strange. I am still suspicious of Orange but not as much as the other two. I will note that having these neutral players ingame does make it harder for town, in the way that scum are more likely to kill the [fewer] town choices when they know who the neutral players are.

@FRAYDO anything to report?

That too, but my point still stands.

Process of elimination and what we're guessing for the game mechanics does seem to leave him as the most likely suspect for last night's kill, but I'm willing to hear him out first.

I'm still seeing a problem with Orange's supposed tracking of Louis showing her doing nothing, when she actually tried stealing an item from someone.