ChopBam

Can we extend this game the entire year so it ends on Dec 31? That way I could use that time to make my decision and watch while these two fight it out that entire time.

If iLTS is Mafia, that is some serious chess going on because killing you was suspecting Orange and I was suspecting iLTS. this would be easier for him as Mafia if I was dead and killing you was still alive.

Fuck both of you guys for putting me in this position. Whichever one of you killed killing you did a hell of a job

Get well soon man.

If you actually die this evening, as you have predicted, then you will no longer be a suspect in my book. That would be very useful information to me indeed, and of course I would revisit your posts and Orange scum read with a new perspective, so it wouldn't exactly be 50% between Orange and KY, would it? IDK man, iLTS seems very volatile and is acting exactly as he did when he was scum during the game that I was being tunneled hard by him. The way he wanted to lynch Orange suddenly... it wasn't a way to convince me because departing from the "no lynch on D2" plan would need a much bigger reason than the one he provided. He describes his railing on Orange today as a , which by itself shouldn't warrant such a thing. Also I would be interested if the sane cop is still alive to come out with some claims on D3. Cause that could be an awesome show and definitely give us more information.

This isn't actually true. From what we know of N0, Voe could have been the naive cop and myself been insane. This also isn't true. I supported the Voe lynch, as did KY briefly as well. Making statements like this and jumping to action so fast looks to me like panic. Why not follow the original plan where we maximize our days to gather info? Are you afraid of something?

Yes on extension. Sorry I've been away during the day. I've had family visiting and doing entertaining all day and generally only been able to get to the thread at night (like last night). While iLTS claims he thinks he may be the target, I think I could be the target since I am confirmed town. If iLTS is indeed the insane cop, the remaining scum could try pushing an iLTS lynch, claiming he's lying about that and Voe was the insane one. If iLTS does die as the insane guy, it's really 50/50 for me on Orange and KY. Neither of them stands out to me as scum, and iLTS's story really seems convenient in line with his report claims, possibly to take the insane role from Voe and we'll never know. This is why I'm leaning on iLTS. It seems a bit fishy to me. If I was a scum iLTS and saw a town report on me N0, I'd want to take that person out ASAP just in case they were insane and put me on the chopping block. Lo and behold, this is what happened with Voe.

No love for my beautiful charts? I am disappoint! ##vote nolynch

You know what that visualizer just helped me realize? In none of those cases am I insane. Therefore I am confirmed logically as our paranoid cop. So while I may be the night target because I am confirmed, I am also useless and if I am to be the night target, there will still be at least one useful cop in play tomorrow to share his report. Either iLTS is Insane or he is Mafia. I half expect him to put up a "town" report tomorrow in order to "prove" either KY or OrangeP47 as mafia for the lynch, but now that I've mentioned this, maybe he won't go that route. I am not 100% sure that he is mafia but I have a hunch based on his patterns. Updated chart: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town

Here's a visualizer for this post, with the adjustment to the KY scum possibility that OrangeP47 couldn't be sane in that instance. If KY scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town If iLTS scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia If ChopBam scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia If OrangeP47 scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town

So logically it's between KY, iLTS, and OrangeP47 as our possible scum members. I'm leaning iLTS for a few reasons that I am having a hard time articulating right now. I was hoping his or my N1 report would be town, so the other person could be confirmed as a town Paranoid, but his N1 report was also mafia, as if to keep that confirmation from happening. The N1 kill was Voe, which happened to be iLTS's "report" from N0, and it looks to me like he's trying to prove that he's the insane one and not Voe (because if Voe was insane, then iLTS is mafia, and this could be proven more easily if Voe lived another day and got a reverse report the following night).

Just working some combos here: If KY is mafia, then I am Paranoid (b/c I got a mafia report both from KY and from Orange, opposite alignments). This would logically make iLTS Insane. Voe and Orange could roll dice to see who's Sane and Naive. If iLTS is mafia, then I am Paranoid and Voe was Insane (getting his N0 report on iLTS as town). KY and Orange could roll dice to determine who's Sane and Naive. Logical impossibility: If I am mafia, then iLTS is Paranoid. KY would be Naive (because he investigated me for a town report). This would make Orange Sane, which would mean by process of elimination that Voe is Insane (impossible because he got a town report on iLTS). If OrangeP47 is mafia, then I am Paranoid (mafia reports on both KY and Orange), which would make iLTS insane. Voe and KY could roll for who is Sane or Naive.

I totally didn't realize control enter just sends in the post, lol, sorry for my terrible formatting. Let me try again.

Just working some possible combos here: If KY is mafia, then I am Paranoid (b/c I got a mafia report both from KY and from Orange, opposite alignments). This would logically make iLTS Insane. Voe and Orange could roll dice to see who's Sane and Naive. If iLTS is mafia, then I am Paranoid and Voe was Insane (getting his N0 report on iLTS as town). KY and Orange could roll dice to determine who's Sane and Naive.

Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town

I got mafia on OrangeP47.

I feel like the more nights we get, the more we can narrow down the reports logically. We can use the night kills to assess reports from 100% confirmed cops and try to determine what type they were.

##vote nolynch. We get an extra day (and night of reports) if we nolynch twice. Also okay with 24 hour day phases.

I didn't consider the possibility of nolynching two days in a row. This would be the only path forward if we were to nolynch today. Let me think about this more. ##unvote

##vote Voe

If we lynch Voe, we'll have more information on Orange and iLTS. If we nolynch, we'll have less information and worse odds.

Mathematically, whether we lynch or nolynch today, we will lose if we mislynch tomorrow. If we nolynch today, we will have more people to choose from in tomorrow's pivotal lynch (4). If we lynch someone today, we'll have one more alignment (and confirmed cop report) to go on tomorrow, and one less person to choose from for the pivotal lynch (3). To that end, I say we lynch someone today.

There is additional information that each of us who was "reported on" has but we can't prove and can't put in the chart. We know our own alignments, so we can, in our own minds, narrow down further the people that got reports on us. For example, since I'm town, I can personally determine that KY (if he's a cop) is not insane. This means he's either sane, naive, or mafia.