ChopBam

Obviously we're on steps 4 & 5.

I will vote Cat5, but I am not happy about it. If he flips scum we can afford to lose me. In fact we would probably be better off without me at that point then somebody can go back and find the remaining person. But good luck with that since Cat5 distanced himself from everybody. If he flips town, you guys better hope this game turns out differently than I'm afraid it will. ##vote Category 5

The only physical evidence you guys have is that ChopBam is in possession of a 1-Up, and by his own admission it's been there since N1. The rest is completely speculation. You're wagering the entire game on this?

I'm still firmly in the camp that this pairing is ridiculous. Once again, I would not be against voting Cat5 today if he had a viable scum partner. With Mojo now voting for Cat5, I don't see Cat5 as having a viable living scum partner.

Yea you're missing out man.

All we have is our own knowledge to go on, so this is unlikely to convince third parties. At the very least, the flavor text on the mask references some sort of mind control. I'll acknowledge this doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad source. This is where a chart would come in handy. I'm seeing a pattern here. "My knowledge vs your knowledge." Right, I'm starting to see that now. But again, a chart describing everybody's claimed abilities and visitations would be extremely useful in puzzling this piece together.

Oh right, you would probably just change the subject and hope nobody noticed the last 5 or 10 pages of the thread.

Revisiting this, KY also has no alibi...

You said it yourself pretty early on, that you doubt there would be two so-similar move copying abilities on the town team. I could agree with that, and since I'm town that would cast one point against you. Your character, Majora, is bent on mayhem and destruction, using this shady mask thing to try to control people. Process of elimination to rule out a number of the other players puts you high on the list. I've gone over how difficult the other combinations are working out. A mention of the 1-Up item and a lucky "guess" at how it'd be used in a mafia game, before the knowledge became public that I was holding one, let alone one existed. Apparently no alibis. I have to say it again, but this way that you've completely tunneled me today even after I followed your suggestion to "scumhunt" and posted my suspicions from D1 and D2 is very fishy indeed. Even if I could somehow be lynched today and the GM confirmed me as town, I'd wager that you would still find some way to claim I'm scum because the 1-Up possession was so painfully impossible for town.

And at this point my public flip doesn't matter. So my argument is that you've gone all in, 100% on pushing me as scum. I'd have a hard time seeing town players doing this, but I haven't seen you as town enough to know your meta.

It would reflect really, really poorly on you as scum if I flipped town before the game was over. So the explanation I have for you is that you've put all your cards into lynching town today. With two scum members that would be 4 town remaining after today's lynch. NK tonight would yield 3 town remaining. Lynch me tomorrow, 2 town for one night, NK then which is 1 town, but I return for a 2 town vs 2 scum. Losing town situation.

This is your item action, so no night actions for you?

You're being as one-track-minded as Jeod right now.

Do we have alibis for N2? Where were y'all that night. iLTS if you want to fill Irish's big shoes you gotta put a chart on the community fridge!

The way I'm thinking right now, if we nail scum today and I am lynched tomorrow, I will have an alibi during N5's kill so when I come back on D6 we can nail the last one. ..well shit. ..well shit x2. So we're missing these two alibis for N1. Dammit.

One potential hole in that logic is the assumption that iLTS' thing with the mask forcing itself into people's possession is his night action, rather than use of an item. If it's mere use of an item, then iLTS was still free to perform another action on N1 and thus would not have an alibi. Does anyone else have information or caught something I might have missed? Need some corroboration here.

If Louis was truthful, and the rest of you including KY and iLTS have alibis, I would be forced to think by process of elimination that Cat5 is responsible for the Verti60 kill.

Here's one problem: Somebody killed Verti on N1. This entire time I assumed it wasn't Orange, because I had RB'd him, and Mojoman has an alibi. This means someone else, likely iLTS, KY, or Cat5 did the kill. KY has an alibi with a masonry or something, yes? Does iLTS forcing the mask onto Nodlied count as an alibi? If so, I am tempted to revisit the idea of Louis having unroleblocked Orange's kill attempt, although Louis has been reading to me as earnest and truthful this entire time. She doesn't have the vibe of a newbie scum.

If you scroll up you will see I am not absolutely confident. But if iLTS is town, then he has been very poor town this game.

In all honesty I see you as the next NK victim, FRAYDO, because you're the one remaining person whom nobody seems to be suspicious of. If we lynch Cat5 today and he flips mafia and the game continues, I am happy to be the next lynch target since we may be able to afford it. I'm trying to reason in my mind who his living scummate would be, however. The only possibiliy I can think of would be Mojoman.

Is there a case for Category 5 besides being flim flam regarding me between D3 and D4?

iLTS/KY: "I'll bet ChopBam won't vote for Cat5!" Cat5: "I'll bet ChopBam won't vote for Louis!" Even if you guys managed to manipulate me into joining your vote, you'd find some other excuse to lynch me tomorrow. That's how blinders work.

Well FRAYDO what do you think?

I think I'm pretty committed at this point, but there is always a seed of doubt. It's the 100%ers that get me.