Shade939

Do you disagree with that reasoning?

Mind finding a quote to prove that point?

To counter your first point, it doesn't make sense to bus Orange just to win the game, only way it'd make sense is if there's some out of game reasoning for him to basically want out of the game. 1) It's just as credible that your vote would have fallen on any player that was being voted up, and you were holding your vote to try and make certain a lynch did happen. 2) I'm surprised that I've actually completely overlooked that angle from a reason why Jeod might have been killed... At the moment Sunflower, as much as you can claim to be a Cop, it's a fact that your ability hasn't resulted in any Mafia players being cleared of suspicion, which is statistically unlikely to say the least...

@Sunflower, time to answer some questions about some of your more suspicious actions? A bit of a last minute vote wasn't it, for a no lynch of all things? Why did you think Scum would kill Jeod?

Actually, I kinda did push her into an early role claim...

Of course, it's pretty easy to find a way for things to happen, still doesn't really change how unlikely it is that's how it actually will happen or not.

Depends on what roles she thought was in game, claiming to visit the player you NK also works out if everyone thinks your a cop.

You know, literally the only thing that indicates to me that Sunflower is Mafia at this point is the fact that she basically got Orange killed.

Why would Category 5 claim to be targeted by a made up scum ability if he couldn't use it again? That seems like it would have been the perfect ability to hit Sunflower with at some point wouldn't it?

Because something is obviously off here, and I'd prefer to know what it is first. Why is Sunflower still alive when Scum had a daykill? Why has Sunflower never produced a cop report on a living player other than Scum? Why does Irish have a limited use Doctor Ability, in addition to limited use Body Guard actions?

Ok, might as well due this properly and see if Category 5 is a miller or not. ##Vote No Lynch Although I'd prefer to bring this day to a close sooner rather than later so we can get through the next night phase a bit quicker so we can actually figure things out.

Yep, I most likely am stretching things too far, but it would explain several things that have already happened in this game even if it is purely by coincidence. And really, that's how far things would have to stretch in order for you to actually be Town in this situation. ##Vote Category 5 Hurricane

Someone would have most likely targeted Sunflower with a night action that resulted in her ability killing it's target. Which is pretty far from a "classic" role by any stretch of the word if it is in game, but then you also have roles with multiple abilities in this game, which iLTS previously said wouldn't be in game also...

And to clarify, it's more along the lines of I've been asking myself questions like this ever since Jeod's death.

This is basically the sort of questions I've been asking ever since Jeod died.

So, the player Sunflower visited was attacked again?

Well, now comes the fun part of waiting to see if someone actually has something useful to report.

@Sunflower, naturally because I am actually more on the cynical/paranoid side, and I can't discount the possibility. But there is a chance your ability has a chance of killing it's target considering that 2/3 of the targets you've visited died the same night, so I'm not discounting the possibility of your ability resulting in a double NK at worst. Which should be rather obvious to Scum if they saw a player you visited died that they didn't choose to NK, in which they case they would be aware of that and would be capable of taking advantage of that information such as not eliminating you with a day kill. Although, by all means I'm really not certain if the above possibility is correct if it does point toward Irish or Category 5 actually being Town, but I'd lean toward Irish in this case.

@Sunflower, investigations are best done with a bit of randomess to reduce the odds of them being countered.

Yeah, I still have too many doubts to go for a last minute lynch in this timeframe.

You know, if I go by everyone viewing this page, now would be a great time to change m vote. To be fair Irish, I'm going to keep my vote on no lynch because Category 5 has actaully harmed Town with his actions/votes outside of a train, and I don't think he would have NK Jeod if he had a last second ability he could pull off to win the game.

Hammer is a bit later.

I suspect last minute trickery from Category 5 less than I do from you. But mainly I thought we had about another 20ish minutes from now, and I'm currently using my phone.

Irish, that's probably the best Mafia response I've gotten out of you this entire game.

##Vote No Lynch How long till hammer?