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Except I think we can stop you from getting that L kill. -
I'm not done making cases yet, though, so if the plan is to kill me, hold off until closer to hammer.
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The only thing I can think of that would achieve what I think you are insinuating, is either a notebook holder writing my name to try to cancel it out (which probably wouldn't work, but no reason not to try), or ChopBam shooting me. Given that I'm already sure I'm going to lose, I'm not going to say no to either plan.
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How on earth do you need my permission to do anything?
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Only because my proposal is locked, and an identical situation happened to FRAYDO before he died. There is no evidence that anyone else has ever had proposal locked for any other reason.
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Look, don't you think maybe that if the action that happened to you was his action, he'd have an idea what your PM would say? He's claiming he used a one-time action to secretly donate 50 proposal to FRAYDO. Setting aside that if he action was blocked, it probably wouldn't have cost him anything, he'd have to be incredibly stupid to actually do what he said he did with a one-time action. Given that Chaos', FRAYDO's and my actions also cost 50 proposal to use, that's convienient. That 50 point reduction is evidence that he did something and you are the only person who is effected by something at the same time. That said, I'm still not sure if we should investigate OrangeP47 or Jeod first, even if I'm now relatively sure the two both need to be.
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Not even going to try to contend that I've got my math wrong, huh? We'll soon know if there was a mistake or not.
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I find it more than a little convienient that the amount you planned to spend on FRAYDO is also exactly the amount that everyone else has spent on their night actions. Up until Night 6 with you, that is. What did you do Night 6?
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I want everyone to keep in mind that we may be facing a Jeod/OrangeP47/Mojoman team. This means Nodlied needs to have enough Trust to make it so that the remaining combined proposals of my points and these other three can't be combined to match Nodlied.
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Oh, I forgot to say, I'm indicting you as being responsible for what happened to Killing_You, OrangeP47. Similar PMs my ass.
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Ok, good. That was a fuck ton of work, especially because VERTi60 changed how the formulas worked at least twice so far. But now, we have evidence we can easily peruse. To begin, I want to focus attention on the image of the first three days. On Night 1, I am the only person who makes a move that changed any stats. My action increases my proposal 25%. Nobody else did anything. Night 2, only Chaos_Knight does anything, and he, like me, used his action to increase his proposal. Everyone else used trust to decrease suspicion automatically. Night 3, again only I take an action that effects these stats, raising my own proposal 59. Chaos_Knight also is the only person who loses all his proposal while being investigated. Still don't know why. Night 4 is where stuff starts to change. VERTI60 changed the formula with which inflation occurs, and also penalizes final proposal by equal amounts as suspicion removed by trust. OrangeP47 spends 50 proposal on something. Keep the 50 in mind, it's important. Meanwhile, Killing_You gets hit with a proposal and trust penalty. Night 5, FRAYDO spends 50 proposal to take all trust from OrangeP47. and also ~66% of proposal. Nobody else made an action that does anything here. Night 6, everything goes fucking nuts and I can't fully place everything yet. VERTi60 changed the inflation formula again which made it harder to get the expected values, but I got it through guesswork. Chaos_Knight spends 50 proposal do presumably raise Jeod's suspicion. I spend 50 proposal to steal Jeod's trust and also increased my own proposal by 25%. Killing_You loses trust but gains Proposal. Mojoman lost 800 more trust than should have been used to remove suspicion. OrangeP47 also loses 200 proposal and 400 more trust is lost than was needed to reduce suspicion. Jeod lost a lot of proposal. I imagine he spent it on shittygami eyes, but I can't accurately pin what actions cost him how much. What is going on with you two, OrangeP47 and Mojoman?
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Check these out. If the forum allows me to post them. Testing.
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Uh. I'm not sure I'm overlooking anything. There are three other players that have their names revealed. Right now. "simply because I'd be the only name they'd have to use," You seem to be the one doing the overlooking, here. We also have no reason to think that Jeod can't just use shittygami eyes at will or that whoever has the stolen book (*ahem*) could also be issued shittygami eyes. Infact, wouldn't making the deal for the eyes cost a night phase? I'm still looking for why the second book wasn't used...
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Alright. So then I match this up against your earlier claim about not wanting to be "next on the chopping block." You claim to be a minor character whose only ability is to use his proposal in secret, and you've wasted it. I've noticed that your claimed role is the first task force member on the wiki list of characters not already claimed. That makes sense in some ways, and is convenient in others. Meanwhile, Mojoman has been investigated and revealed to be task force, and Chaos_Knight has been investigated and is proven to be working against Jeod. And there is me, of course, though there was little reason to think I was under threat...If your role claim is true, I have little reason to believe that you would have been "next on the chopping block." Leaving out L as a potential target, I would expect Chaos would be targeted before you as things stand right now. I have to admit here that I still see an opening for you to be telling the truth, but I've got a lot of things stacked up on you now.
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Well, I think the real "bonus" for you is that your ability is hidden. Everyone else has to to their proposals publicly, while you could use yours in secret. Now, I don't see why a town player would need to secretly dish out proposal to someone, but I can see someone not wanting to publicly give trust to someone known to be bad or give suspicion to someone known to be good. Could just do the action in secret and then claim someone else did it to you as their night action.
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So of course, you once again can't prove you did what you say you did. Now, I'm having to try to process the point of this supposed ability. You're saying that you could dish out trust or suspicion just like during the day, with no bonuses?
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Orange, you said previously you have a night action that effected points. Did you use it?
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The fact that he keeps doing so makes it pretty clear that he's not in as good of a position as he'd like us to think.
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Just a ghost playing Tetris. Pay him no mind, remember?
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If you want to talk about something else, start making some cases. Stop asking others to pick up the baton. Let's see what you think.
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In mafia games, most times you don't have proof of your claims. All you can do is press like a motherfucker. Welcome to the show. Hell, you guys investigated me largely because I wasn't active. I had Zelda, I didn't give a shit.
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I can see why that would be hard to fathom, given that you are holding that notebook.
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He's claiming that he magically retrieved the notebook that someone else previously stole, using the L powers last night.
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Excuse me a second, but when I refer to you taking a notebook with L powers, I'm obviously referring to you taking the one that had been confiscated at the time. Jeod is claiming he has taken the one that I claim you have stolen, using L powers remotely, instead of accessing the notebook that was still confiscated. (which we know occurred, and is itself another reason why I know he's lying)
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So? If we want to meta game that, then you could go around to anybody anytime and steal whatever they are holding, therefore L powers are unnecessary. Then, how are walking through walls and L powers related?
