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Oh, right, I can't vote, I forgot about that. Guess it doesn't matter for me!

I'm going to wait to hear from Jeod before I make a vote. He suggested to me he had some info on Louis, and I want to add that to the pile before I decide between these two.

That would seem to be correct. I think we're all just spitballing on that, though.

That's what I'm thinking, yes.

No, I don't think so. Orange is probably TP. Sunflower is probably Mafia. Or, given the counterclaim, substitute Louis instead. Currently trying to backtrack and see if it could make sense for KY/Louis to be a team.

Yeah, he is. He's claiming it's impossible to stop him at this point. I know I don't have anything, but I'm betting somebody does.

You just get totally transparent in cases like this. You lost a game, amusingly with KY as a partner, because it was too obvious that you were defending him. It's clear as day what you're trying to do here.

Yeah, I've had a moment like that already in my discussion with Jeod.

No, I don't think so. I don't think it's a coincidence that you were "blocked" two nights in a row.

What the fuck, Sunflower is counterclaiming Louis now? I didn't think it was time for this level of desperation yet!

Wait, really? Who did you say you targeted?

I mostly just remember you, me, and Allie29 forming an unbeatable alliance where we could protect each other at night and you provided weapons during the day. And we took down mafia eventually, but there were some...collateral casualties left in our wake.

Would be pretty powerful, but it could backfire pretty badly. *thinking of Retal's Gunsmith role from the first CYOR at BHP*

I'm confused. You did do a daykill before, I just assumed it was the same action. I didn't pay attention to the name. Actually, I would figure a scum player on KYs team would have a better chance of knowing that the names are and that what you used was different.

That would not help your case given that the passive I have and others I have heard about are investigative in nature. This would mean your role was designed to disarm investigative roles.

I wouldn't have bought it because I'm willing to bet almost everyone has one. What use is a passive cop?

Yeah, when you see a timer that nobody explains, don't advance the timer. K? thanks. Also if you're teamed with him, I hate you.

I don't know if it's relevant to ask me because I wasn't here at the time, but I assumed it was a daykill and that I was already dead.

Doubtful. Evidently there are either dozens of tools to stop mafia or a weak but numerous mafia team. There will be some way.

You're going to tell me that Louis openly helped Orange with something twice and she's not teamed with him?

I specifically chose to mason Jeod because I was suspicious of him and his last-minute vote on D1. I didn't think it was a joke vote. It looked to me that he had a reason to do that, such as an ability that required a vote in some way. I decided I could ask him in private and see if he would tell me anything about that. I figured a town player might open up about it, and a scum player would probably just ignore me or just fish for info himself. What I got was sort of in between, he denied that he had any reason for the vote, gave me some info I didn't ask for, and then fished for info from me. In retrospect, masoning someone on the basis of distrust probably was going to inevitably turn into a standoff where not much was said. That said, if he is being truthful, we may be able to cooperate more after we can get some verification. Jeod we may be able to verify with the item he had. Verification of me is going to have to come from others. Regarding the vote, I realized after I left for work that I forgot to vote before I left. Given that the outcome seemed to be obvious, I didn't go to any particular lengths to fix that.

I don't see any reason to pause making cases just because we want to NoLynch today. Still need to plan actions for N2, no need to waste the time we have.

If this is an item that can be freely passed around, then the only way to limit suspects is to know who had items and where those went. Anyone who didn't claim a pass and have a verified recipient is a suspect for the device. Not Retal because he announced it and it already had a number on it, that seems to suggest it needs to change hands 5 times. Probably not Louis because she decided to steal the thing, though I suppose it could be a way of advancing the "timer" if you know how it works. Not Jeod because his item is already accounted for. Not KY because his targets are known (unless items can't be tracked?) Am I missing any details that would eliminate iLTS, FRAYDO, or Sunflower from doing an item pass?

Hah! I guess that must be all there was to it.