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No love for my beautiful charts? I am disappoint! ##vote nolynch
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You know what that visualizer just helped me realize? In none of those cases am I insane. Therefore I am confirmed logically as our paranoid cop. So while I may be the night target because I am confirmed, I am also useless and if I am to be the night target, there will still be at least one useful cop in play tomorrow to share his report. Either iLTS is Insane or he is Mafia. I half expect him to put up a "town" report tomorrow in order to "prove" either KY or OrangeP47 as mafia for the lynch, but now that I've mentioned this, maybe he won't go that route. I am not 100% sure that he is mafia but I have a hunch based on his patterns. Updated chart: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town
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Here's a visualizer for this post, with the adjustment to the KY scum possibility that OrangeP47 couldn't be sane in that instance. If KY scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town If iLTS scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia If ChopBam scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia If OrangeP47 scum: Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town
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So logically it's between KY, iLTS, and OrangeP47 as our possible scum members. I'm leaning iLTS for a few reasons that I am having a hard time articulating right now. I was hoping his or my N1 report would be town, so the other person could be confirmed as a town Paranoid, but his N1 report was also mafia, as if to keep that confirmation from happening. The N1 kill was Voe, which happened to be iLTS's "report" from N0, and it looks to me like he's trying to prove that he's the insane one and not Voe (because if Voe was insane, then iLTS is mafia, and this could be proven more easily if Voe lived another day and got a reverse report the following night).
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Just working some combos here: If KY is mafia, then I am Paranoid (b/c I got a mafia report both from KY and from Orange, opposite alignments). This would logically make iLTS Insane. Voe and Orange could roll dice to see who's Sane and Naive. If iLTS is mafia, then I am Paranoid and Voe was Insane (getting his N0 report on iLTS as town). KY and Orange could roll dice to determine who's Sane and Naive. Logical impossibility: If I am mafia, then iLTS is Paranoid. KY would be Naive (because he investigated me for a town report). This would make Orange Sane, which would mean by process of elimination that Voe is Insane (impossible because he got a town report on iLTS). If OrangeP47 is mafia, then I am Paranoid (mafia reports on both KY and Orange), which would make iLTS insane. Voe and KY could roll for who is Sane or Naive.
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I totally didn't realize control enter just sends in the post, lol, sorry for my terrible formatting. Let me try again.
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Just working some possible combos here: If KY is mafia, then I am Paranoid (b/c I got a mafia report both from KY and from Orange, opposite alignments). This would logically make iLTS Insane. Voe and Orange could roll dice to see who's Sane and Naive. If iLTS is mafia, then I am Paranoid and Voe was Insane (getting his N0 report on iLTS as town). KY and Orange could roll dice to determine who's Sane and Naive.
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Player N0 Report N1 Report Sane Insane Naive Paranoid Voe iLTS/Town - Killing_You Chop/Town Voe/Town iLikeToSnipe Voe/Mafia Chop/Mafia ChopBam KY/Mafia Orange/Mafia OrangeP47 Voe/Town KY/Town
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I got mafia on OrangeP47.
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I feel like the more nights we get, the more we can narrow down the reports logically. We can use the night kills to assess reports from 100% confirmed cops and try to determine what type they were.
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##vote nolynch. We get an extra day (and night of reports) if we nolynch twice. Also okay with 24 hour day phases.
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I didn't consider the possibility of nolynching two days in a row. This would be the only path forward if we were to nolynch today. Let me think about this more. ##unvote
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##vote Voe
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If we lynch Voe, we'll have more information on Orange and iLTS. If we nolynch, we'll have less information and worse odds.
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Mathematically, whether we lynch or nolynch today, we will lose if we mislynch tomorrow. If we nolynch today, we will have more people to choose from in tomorrow's pivotal lynch (4). If we lynch someone today, we'll have one more alignment (and confirmed cop report) to go on tomorrow, and one less person to choose from for the pivotal lynch (3). To that end, I say we lynch someone today.
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There is additional information that each of us who was "reported on" has but we can't prove and can't put in the chart. We know our own alignments, so we can, in our own minds, narrow down further the people that got reports on us. For example, since I'm town, I can personally determine that KY (if he's a cop) is not insane. This means he's either sane, naive, or mafia.
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I think having a chart would help us with the logical steps and process of elimination in this game. If anyone has suggestions for improving it, lemme know. [PLAYERS] [N0 RESULT] [IS NOT THESE COP TYPES] Voe ??? ??? Killing_You ??? ??? iLikeToSnipe Voe Mafia Not Naive ChopBam Killing_You Mafia Not Naive OrangeP47 Voe Town Not Paranoid
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Aaaaand it said he was mafia?
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Was your N0 report on Voe?
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Well first off... @iLikeToSnipe, r u scum?
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Killing You is aligned with the mafia. I am as sure of this fact as I am of my sanity.
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Why don't you join up and show us how it's done?
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Sign me up mang.
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I would have been willing to take over for Mojo, but I just got home from work and saw the thread for the first time and the game was already over. It was a nice concept.
