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1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said:

No probably not. But knowing you, it could still be an action.

Passing an item to Orange gives him an ability to pass a non-existent item once.

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6 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Just a few minutes ago you called KY's neutral claim believable when you were attacking Shade. Now it's far fetched?

Doesn't mean I buy it, but it does mean I consider it in terms of meta/game balance.

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2 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Too many neutrals, especially if a Third Party is also in play, as game could be over too quickly.

I don't think it's likely, but I also don't think it's impossible. Jeod might be pulling something crazy here. But as long as it's balanced, it's okay.

I do think it's a dangerous mentality to think that something can't happen because it hasn't been done before. Yeah, if something seems far fetched because of game balance (i.e. KY's win condition) that's something to investigate and doubt. But what is wrong with actually having multiple neutrals and a small scum team or some TPs?

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Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Because if you are Neutral, than one of the other claims are not.

Why would they be?

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2 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

You're not answering the question, Shade.

That's Shade's meta though.

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Could you imagine a Shade cult though? Shade is a cult leader that makes other people become Shade. A Shade hivemind.

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Just now, OrangeP47 said:

Yeah Shade mask off.

I'll come clean... my alignment isn't Neutral... it's really Shade.

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2 minutes ago, Shade939 said:

I'm going to be very amused if we actually have the same alignment @iLikeToSnipe.

Are you saying you aren't Town? Scum/TP slip? Cause I know I'm neutral, KY has a believable neutral claim as well, so what does that make you?

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20 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I don't know, I feel like it's more likely wrong, but I also see several things that would line up if it was true. It's bugging me. And if I can't lynch iLTS, and I'm starting to believe Orange, Anon_Kat might be my lynch target.

Hey, just add another piece on there, I would expect to be next in line to kill, and he voted for me.

 

Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Don't try to chastise me for that, I'm quite aware, and just finished telling Orange the same damn thing.

Yeah, you're saying that to Orange. But you're still soft pushing for an Anon lynch.

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7 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

That same article makes it pretty clear by mentioning multiple times that the mentee is supposed to die, though...

What does the wiki say about the Survivor role? There is zero guarantee that Jeod (or any other GM here) follows roles on a wiki to the letter. Depending on who bases their argument off of this (Cat5, Orange, etc) I actually consider that a scumtell. You should know better by this point.

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2 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

I don't know, I feel like it's more likely wrong, but I also see several things that would line up if it was true. It's bugging me. And if I can't lynch iLTS, and I'm starting to believe Orange, Anon_Kat might be my lynch target.

Hey, just add another piece on there, I would expect to be next in line to kill, and he voted for me.

I see only two plausible possibilities. Anon is getting coached by somebody on the mafia team to go with all this or FRAYDO really was a mentor (with tweaks from the typical role) that targeted him.

Assuming the first possibility is correct, I would expect him to be more active and to have elaborated more in his first post where he voted you and made the mentee claim.

The second possibility is that Anon had a mentor (FRAYDO) in a masonry with him for one night and then suddenly lost that. His actions right now appear to more closely fit with somebody who had some brief guidance and then lost it.

Yeah, it's possible that he's mafia and has had guidance. But it's a bit odd to me that people are just jumping onto that conclusion like it's a sure thing.

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25 minutes ago, Shade939 said:

Also, how amusing would it be if iLTS wasted a one-shot NK on me last night. 

Keep dreaming Shade 

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Just now, Louis said:

I want to host one but I don't know where to start

I'd probably have time to co-mod and help you get started. That'd give Jeod and a few others their chance to pay together.

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2 minutes ago, Jeod said:

I'd disagree there, but if you want anything proven we'd have to square off in the next mafia game. Hopefully someone else will host one--I've been itching to play for a while.

If I can get the time I'll run one. IF...

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Just now, Louis said:

@iLikeToSnipe i think i missed the post but what does venting do for you?

I am not able to be targeted at all during the current day phase. No day actions, no lynches.

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Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Frankly I think venting today probably saved you from getting lynched this game, as I suspect we'll have bigger fish to fry later.

That's why I used it

Its use was more intended to get more people to listen though. You could technically lynch me tomorrow if you wanted to. But that doesn't stop me from hurting town or whoever started the vote. Getting rid of me doesn't protect you, working with me so I survive until the end does.

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Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said:

So no matter which faction takes you out of the game, you can't be sure you hurt the correct faction in revenge, mathematically making you more of a liability to town than anyone else.

If I chose randomly, sure. But I'm not gonna choose randomly. I can have a much better than 50% of hitting the right faction.

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11 minutes ago, Louis said:

Question! What is a meta?

Meta is term used to describe how somebody acts in certain situations throughout all games. For the most part, we aren't total strangers to each other. I've seen how Orange plays as town and as mafia. Many people have seen how I play as town, mafia, and third party (never been neutral before this game).

So, you can kind of get a feeling for somebody's alignment by how they are playing the game compared to past games. However, it's still no guarantee. You still have your own biases to filter and there's nothing to keep a person from switching up their meta.

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9 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

Can you give an example of something you might do to specifically hurt mafia and not town?

I don't have anything that's a global action, like killamafia, I would have to target somebody I think is from either alignment I believe killed me. I've already got some town reads and scum reads, so I don't think that's gonna be difficult. As for what I can do in that case, I'm not saying yet. Think of it as maiming rather than killing for what it does.

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5 hours ago, TheIrishman said:

I don’t understand the point of a survivor role that can still play after being dead although if iLTS truly an Imposter, it’s thematic but it’d be even useful if he was scum. That said a double ascetic/lynchproof ability sounds OP for scum.

Reading through new comments in the morning and I'd just like to clarify this. I don't die and can still survive. If I die I can use a "beyond the grave" ability to mess someone up. Think of it as a deterrent to death from hostile factions.

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6 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

Was an Achillies tendon lengthening.  Quite intense.  Only the one leg that time, as opposed to both legs when I was 10.

Oh man, I've nearly severed my Achilles tendon before. That sounds awful.

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4 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:

I had a really good time though, lol.

That's a lot more than I had for my tonsillectomy, I can't even imagine functioning with that lol

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Just now, Shade939 said:

Wouldn't surprise me if that happened in a game.

I've considered a mafia game without mafia just to screw with people.

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1 minute ago, OrangeP47 said:

Yeah but to be more explicit, he could still be a scum partner, unless you want to promote a theory that there's 1 scum 1 TP.  I guess it's unlikely, but it was another way of also saying I wasn't impressed with Retal's contributions today too.

1 mafia and 1 TP is basically just 2 TP. What if there's only a few town and the rest are TP our neutral lol

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22 minutes ago, Shade939 said:

FRAYDO!

Yes, I am brilliant.

But what about yourself? Scum slip?