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Do you mean to be wary of a town witch hunt if you were to vote for a player you find scummy but they end up being town? I don't consider that suspicious, it's a reasonable concern. Whether I'm town or mafia, I never want to get lynched by a town witch hunt/bandwagon. I have been town before where I voted for another town member for what I considered good reasons and then ended up getting shot or lynched the next day after their flip for what I considered mostly bad reasons. It does irk me when that happens to anyone. Especially when it's a cycle of lynching town members for jumping onto bandwagons.

I can at least promise I'm not going to push a lynch on somebody just for voting/shooting a town member. Doesn't mean I won't analyze your posts and look for scum tells.

I know I don't speak for everyone, but I think it's a scum play to consider something a "good" action only as long as the result is pro-town. Let's say we ended up lynching Orange and he flipped town. I would not condemn anyone just for voting him. I'd have to find some indication that they voted him with ill intent or that they made their vote with the seeming foreknowledge that he was going to flip town. The same goes for shooting somebody. If somebody were to shoot Mojo for a good reason (ex. he threatened to shoot you) and he flipped town I wouldn't consider the shooter suspicious. If somebody just up and shot Mojo for no good reason and he flipped town then I'd be suspicious of the shooter. In my honest opinion, too much weight is put on the outcome of an action in our games. It's one thing I've been able to exploit in the past to cast suspicion on a town player as mafia. In general, only mafia know who everyone is (at least in the sense of mafia/not-mafia). But that doesn't mean that anyone who has a hand in killing a town player knew they were town and acted maliciously. What I'm getting at is that we shouldn't necessarily be voting Mojo just to get a flip and use that flip to figure out if somebody is "suspicious". If we think he's scum, then let's lynch him. If we don't, then let's not. I think he's scum, I've given what I obviously believe to be good reasons for that, and others have contributed with their own reasons (good and bad). If anyone thinks that Mojo isn't scum or there's a player who is more likely scum (or even wants to argue for nolynch), then let's discuss that.

Yeah, you just put in your vote (and then took it off iirc).

Excuse me, I believe I started the Mojowagon. Orange and Chop were the ones to hop on (though Chop seemed to have done so jokingly). And Mojo did indeed threaten to shoot me, so I shot him.

That would be interesting... I'm already formulating Mafia DCYOR. Don't Create Your Own Role.

I just had the most brilliant idea for an April Fool's Day mafia game. I think it'd be trollish while still being a game with some competition/seriousness.

I do not understand Shade's logic at all. No result would prove a person's role.

He had to participate in a mafia game.

The best unit in all C&C.

Have you considered that one (or both) of those players are lying?

Shade, one of the most chaotic players, does not like uncertainty/chaos in his mafia.

Shade is the Borg. Resistance is futile.

Obviously the correct target for scum would be FRAYDO (assuming he is town). RNG is never on his side.

I'm gonna have to be honest. I don't think I'd ever shoot you D1 if I were mafia.

That reads to me as either believing she made a grave mistake as town or scum. I actually read that more as town, I'd figure there'd be somebody talking with her to plan it if she were mafia.

To be fair, I have pulled off plenty of successful scum gambits because people believed "scum shouldn't do that". I don't suspect Louis right now, but I'm not going to write her off as town because she did something that scum "shouldn't" do.

You shot me when I was a BP commissar. Then I summarily executed you.

Yeah, pretty sure it was a joke. It just popped into my mind while catching up.

Ah, that was it. I'm assuming that wasn't serious?

Also, am I crazy or did somebody claim neutral/third-party a while back? For some reason I thought somebody did, there have just been so many posts I've lost track.

25%/25%

What a clusterfuck of a game... Had to pirate it since my paid copy wouldn't work for two weeks.

Did I miss that we could request roles? I want to be a Titan

That is one reason. In addition to that and what Orange explained, Mojo has been quick to make threats.