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Just now, ChopBam said:
I've been burned by my good intent with bad result too many times to take this seriously.
I can at least promise I'm not going to push a lynch on somebody just for voting/shooting a town member. Doesn't mean I won't analyze your posts and look for scum tells.
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Just now, ChopBam said:
The real unfortunate bit is figuring out whether Mojo is actually scum in order to take action on it. If he is and I end up voting for him/firing a shot, then that's good points for me which will help the team. But if he's not, then that's one town down and suspicious points for me. It's about 50/50 for me because Mojo is known to say and play erratically.
I know I don't speak for everyone, but I think it's a scum play to consider something a "good" action only as long as the result is pro-town. Let's say we ended up lynching Orange and he flipped town. I would not condemn anyone just for voting him. I'd have to find some indication that they voted him with ill intent or that they made their vote with the seeming foreknowledge that he was going to flip town.
The same goes for shooting somebody. If somebody were to shoot Mojo for a good reason (ex. he threatened to shoot you) and he flipped town I wouldn't consider the shooter suspicious. If somebody just up and shot Mojo for no good reason and he flipped town then I'd be suspicious of the shooter.
In my honest opinion, too much weight is put on the outcome of an action in our games. It's one thing I've been able to exploit in the past to cast suspicion on a town player as mafia. In general, only mafia know who everyone is (at least in the sense of mafia/not-mafia). But that doesn't mean that anyone who has a hand in killing a town player knew they were town and acted maliciously.
What I'm getting at is that we shouldn't necessarily be voting Mojo just to get a flip and use that flip to figure out if somebody is "suspicious". If we think he's scum, then let's lynch him. If we don't, then let's not. I think he's scum, I've given what I obviously believe to be good reasons for that, and others have contributed with their own reasons (good and bad). If anyone thinks that Mojo isn't scum or there's a player who is more likely scum (or even wants to argue for nolynch), then let's discuss that.
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2 minutes ago, ChopBam said:
Clarification: I did not fire any shots. It's the voting bandwagon you're talking about now.
Yeah, you just put in your vote (and then took it off iirc).
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20 minutes ago, Voe said:
Jumped on the Mojowagon. While I don't like Orange's gunblazing, i doubt scum would shoot first. iLTS looks like he hopped on the gunwagon, which lights all the wrong bulbs for me. I saw a post somewhere saying iLTS' shot was justified because Mojo threatened him, but I can't remember it and i can't be arsed to look. If anyone's shot was justified today, it was Mojo's, who hasn't shot at all.
Excuse me, I believe I started the Mojowagon. Orange and Chop were the ones to hop on (though Chop seemed to have done so jokingly). And Mojo did indeed threaten to shoot me, so I shot him.
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1 minute ago, Mojoman said:
50% the target of your actions hit a random FRAYDO.
That would be interesting... I'm already formulating Mafia DCYOR. Don't Create Your Own Role.
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2 minutes ago, Mojoman said:
I can't wait for Troll Mafia.
I just had the most brilliant idea for an April Fool's Day mafia game. I think it'd be trollish while still being a game with some competition/seriousness.
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I do not understand Shade's logic at all. No result would prove a person's role.
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14 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:
I mean you mentioned being on pain killers yesterday, and I'd be remiss if I didn't sympathize with that. Did something happen recently?
He had to participate in a mafia game.
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Just now, OrangeP47 said:
I'm caught between wanting to berate you and wanting to make a joke that he's a limpit mine.
The best unit in all C&C.
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1 minute ago, Shade939 said:
An open role list naturally leads to the assumption those roles are in game.
So far we have two players claiming this is not the case, so does that mean any of the mafia roles were removed, or do we still have to worry about them being in game?
Have you considered that one (or both) of those players are lying?
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4 minutes ago, Shade939 said:
So yeah, that's my complaint about changing things from the initial role list for this game.
Shade, one of the most chaotic players, does not like uncertainty/chaos in his mafia.
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8 minutes ago, OrangeP47 said:
And I've been hanging around with Shade too much if now I'm using the wrong "your"
Shade is the Borg. Resistance is futile.
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Obviously the correct target for scum would be FRAYDO (assuming he is town). RNG is never on his side.
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6 minutes ago, Shade939 said:
And if that was the plan they wanted her to carry out despite her own reservations?
I'm gonna have to be honest. I don't think I'd ever shoot you D1 if I were mafia.
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1 minute ago, Shade939 said:
She immediately regretted the action, and agreed that she should be voted up for having done in. In other words, she felt guilty over it.
That reads to me as either believing she made a grave mistake as town or scum. I actually read that more as town, I'd figure there'd be somebody talking with her to plan it if she were mafia.
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4 minutes ago, Voe said:
Really? I thought Louis shot Mojo too.
But this doesn't really change anything. I think Louis is town. Scum shouldn't shoot first.
To be fair, I have pulled off plenty of successful scum gambits because people believed "scum shouldn't do that". I don't suspect Louis right now, but I'm not going to write her off as town because she did something that scum "shouldn't" do.
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6 minutes ago, Voe said:
To a point where in one game iLTS (i think it was him) received a bullet reflecting shield in case i shot him Day 1. I did. And i died.
But that was a long time ago.
You shot me when I was a BP commissar. Then I summarily executed you.
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Just now, OrangeP47 said:
I think somebody did but it was a joke?
Yeah, pretty sure it was a joke. It just popped into my mind while catching up.
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3 hours ago, Mojoman said:
I'm third party.
Ah, that was it. I'm assuming that wasn't serious?
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Also, am I crazy or did somebody claim neutral/third-party a while back? For some reason I thought somebody did, there have just been so many posts I've lost track.
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53 minutes ago, Voe said:
What were your stuck% and hit%?
25%/25%
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Just now, Retaliation said:
Fun fact, they took the Steel Talons titan model from C&C Arena (which went on to become C&C4).
The KW titan is possibly the only good thing to come from C&C4.
What a clusterfuck of a game... Had to pirate it since my paid copy wouldn't work for two weeks.
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1 minute ago, ChopBam said:
So tell us about that Disc Thrower. Did you request him?
Did I miss that we could request roles? I want to be a Titan
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Just now, Jeod said:
Hrm. I thought it was because you and him claimed unique roles not on the sheet?
That is one reason. In addition to that and what Orange explained, Mojo has been quick to make threats.
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[GAME OVER] Tiberian Sun: Reborn Mafia I
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Do you mean to be wary of a town witch hunt if you were to vote for a player you find scummy but they end up being town? I don't consider that suspicious, it's a reasonable concern. Whether I'm town or mafia, I never want to get lynched by a town witch hunt/bandwagon.
I have been town before where I voted for another town member for what I considered good reasons and then ended up getting shot or lynched the next day after their flip for what I considered mostly bad reasons. It does irk me when that happens to anyone. Especially when it's a cycle of lynching town members for jumping onto bandwagons.