Jeod

I have to go to work soon, so I'll leave those questions open. However, if I take the angle that you made a genuine slip for N2 and didn't think I would be able to return (or not as easily/quickly), then it leads straight into you giving Sunflower the bus to give yourself an alibi, as the others had at the time not called out the N2 contradiction as much, and I wouldn't be able to verify it--thereby allowing you to postulate that "scum" caused it.

Good thing I'm not asking you

I find myself with two questions: 1) Did ChopBam think I would return from the dead? 2) Would ChopBam be willing to bus Sunflower?

Nodlied and chopbam has no interactions on N1. Whatever his abilities are, they couldn’t have affected chopbam for N2. We also know that he’s curseproof and so wasn’t randomized by you. Further, there is no evidence of a passive randomizer since nobody else has reported anything similar. I think that if we want to continue conversation while waiting for Irish, this should be the subject.

With the hidden alignments and town ability to use death notes to make kills, I can definitely see that as a possibility. However, Verti60 never mentioned if Sunflower discussed having a partner or simply avoided that topic.

I think that's all the more reason, icing on the cake in fact, to lynch the confirmed third party today instead of possible scum.

You know, once Category 5 uses his final resurrection tonight, we might have a bunch of alignment reveals on Day 6.

No. I prosecute criminals and demons alike.

I'm not scumlord supreme for nothing. This is in the bag.

You seem awful sure that Shade made a delayed kill on a still living player, that mafia will be able to succeed in a kill tonight, and that Orange will use the notebook. That's a lot of cards you're counting on.

Correct. Meanwhile, while waiting, I've been digging for the second scum. It's actually your job to defend yourself, which is why I've been asking you from time to time if you have any way to explain your N2. You don't seem very concerned with that however, perhaps you didn't think you would need to worry about it.

Category 5 didn't mention it when I brought that discrepancy up to him, and Nodlied couldn't have done it. The only other explanation is KY and Sunflower, and KY visited himself while Sunflower gave all of her abilities already.

I still want to design and run an Ace Attorney RPG, but it's been a while since I looked into it again. Perhaps I'll start writing a case...

That depends on Irish. The player pool has thinned down enough I think, and Verti has admitted to being a hostile tp now. If we turn around now then I'd be voting for ChopBam, since with nearly everything on the table it seems there is still no explanation for his N2 action and result.

Early hammer should already be in effect, we're just discussing more while waiting on resolution now.

Excuse me?

You said yourself that the reason for you coming out was that they'd been trying to kill you. You've also said that one of the reasons you chose not to give ChopBam a notebook was that he disliked it immensely in DNM. If Sunflower was able to somehow tell her partner about the notebook and its origin, then it stands to reason that perhaps her partner decided that offing you would be for the best. Indeed, KY is so far the only true nightkill we've had.

Again, how do you know that killing you isn't a part of their win condition? She did have the perfect ability to counter you while nobody else could.

By trying to nightkill you? Are you sure that wasn't her partner's decision?

And how did she do that exactly?

I'm not sure how things would have gone if Verti60 hadn't outed Sunflower. I'm still wondering how ChopBam got the wrong target on N2. If Orange isn't actually scum, then it could be him, and the whole him vs. Sunflower thing could have been a bus since ChopBam likely doesn't trust Verti60. I wonder if Verti60 would have killed Sunflower with his own notebook if it looked like ChopBam was going to get the lynch...

Excellent! Now all we need to do is wait 12 hours for @TheIrishman to resolve or tell us "no u".

CVC: Jeod voted Verti60 OrangeP47 voted nobody iLikeToSnipe voted Verti60 Shade939 voted OrangeP47 ChopBam voted Verti60 Verti60 voted Verti60 Sure looks like an ear;y hammer to me. Or maybe Orange has to have voted the majority too.

I doubt Shade used the notebook, though. If he did with scum intentions he wouldn't have passed it to Orange to get around the contract thing.

So in other words, for the purpose of chaos.