Jeod

You missed Snipe's vote in the CvC despite quoting it, btw.

Looks like Sunflower gave you a gift. You get to cause an early hammer after all.

He doesn't need to convince them that he was visited by a cop, he needs to convince them he was visited period. Did you two think that one through?

That's a pretty stretched generalization there. But I'm not the guy you're trying to convince.

Orange simply claimed he was visited, he only knows my role because I gave it out. There's no way you'd know if a cop investigated you. I expected a stronger rebuttal.

##vote OrangeP47

Alight time to get started. Mislynch today and there are 5 players left tomorrow after the NK. Of those five, only 3 votes are needed to cause an early hammer, and two votes are scum. Shade's brought up the prospect of a dayvig making this MYLO. I think he's half right, but the real problem is that TheIrishMan is a doublevoter. That's right, Irish is the PR in the scum, and Orange may or may not have his own ability. However, TheIrishMan's ability is only useful during the day, which means he made the kill last night. Bear with me and this will make more sense. Way to instantly take the heat off Irish, but I happen to agree with this: counterclaims should definitely be solved first. If we lynch you today, then we'll have 4 town against 1 scum tomorrow, which makes Irish's ability useless. Is that your true motive? First, odds weren't looking bad for Irish. I was applying the pressure, sure, but I'm still the only one voting for him. The issue here was your fear of him being trained on. Notice how Irish casually asked about my character at the end of his first rebuttal post, but then over time as I kept up the pressure it became his only mode of counterattack. You two must have wanted a quick game with the early hammer so you could make use of Irish's ability faster, so saving him was critical. Orange kindly corroborated my claim that I blocked him by saying that he was visited. As for what happened to him, nothing. The question is what would have happened if I hadn't visited him? I haven't been able to research my character, but my ability has to do with peanut butter and roleblocking. The best basic role match for that is a Drunk. Like I said, I wasn't concerned with flavor because I haven't seen or researched any of the shows save for last night when I gave my character's origin. I blocked you as a joke because of our conversation on Day 1. If I was scum and thought you were a town power role, I'd have killed you. Oh I think you better "use them". Are you now? Vanilla, you say? Don't you mean Doublevoter? This interaction between you two is surprisingly fitting for a scum team looking to protect their daytime ace-in-the-hole. So just because Orange would have been one of your picks to block or kill as scum, that means I must be scum because I must align with your views? I think counterclaiming was the plan after my attack on Irish's rebuttal. Being hesitant isn't my persona as scum; as I said before, I'd have done thorough research on different characters and come up with a more solid story. Plus, my flavor claim was counterclaimed immediately and by the player I chose to roleblock. Give me some credit, I'd have checked out Orange and tried to guess his character and role before choosing him as a target if I were scum (as opposed to targeting for the lulz).

I’ll deal with this rabble in the morning, but it appears you two were aiming for a quick game. It won’t be the case.

Family calls tonight, so I'll be off until the morning, but Irish everything you've said so far looks like scum trying to figure out a plan to get around the "strong townread" who has you in his top three for the day. Heck, it'd be super neat if I had both scum in my list, but that's not my focus right now. I'm Malcom Ducasse, and I think I have my decision. ##vote TheIrishMan We'll see what the next 9 hours bring. Goodnight.

That's your reason? If I were scum I'd have spent the entire first day thinking about my cover--and, especially after I came right out the gate with my claim, would definitely have been more confident about revealing it. My response to your initial question of if my character was asian or blind would have been a simple yes/no. I haven't spent time researching anything about my character or any others. The only importance flavor really plays in this game is for counterclaims, since no player can be the same character. I even asked about that. But hey, if it's that important that it gets out there, I'm willing to tell, but on the condition that the majority want it out there. Now, let's get back to your side of things. Excuse me, "all sorts of abilities", in a basics game? While it's true that RB is more commonly found on scum than town, what makes you think we have more rare roles like ability cop? Additionally, why would that have any bearing on my decision to come out and say Orange can't be the killer? I've been so forthright because I, like Orange, consider the odds in a smaller game. Time is of the essence: the sooner positive information comes out, the less opportunity scum have to spin it. For example, there's no fear of MYLO today, whereas if I'd revealed tomorrow that Orange couldn't have killed, scum would probably be going "baw you're just trying to keep your partner off the lynch table on mylo, baw".

Hint: It’s from Jessica Jones (apparently).

Tell you what. Put it to a vote. I’ll check it when I get home. In the meantime, you should make your case as to why I should reveal my character.

I’m at work, no time to search.

I do see the page you’re referring to, but I’m at work for the next hour so can’t make a good comment on it. I’ll say however that I do agree with you, but I’m on the fence still about whether it would be wise to pursue the matter today.

Why do I think you’re searching for a counterclaim or something?

The odds are more a important detail when the game has potential to end on Night 3.

Not today bud. If you’ve got alarm bells about something then speak up more directly, but if this is an omgus it’s not gonna make me spill more info than I need to.

Are you seeing something that makes you scumread Orange? I’ve been narrow-minded enough so far to simply think of him as “not the killer” today, not “the second scum”.

It only gives you cred to be taken off the lunch pool for today.

I see no reason to play Guess Who at this point, Irish. I made my reasons for being upfront known already.

As I usually do.

It's this statement that currently has my attention. I'm struggling to see how it's from a town's point of view, given what Sunflower said. Why can't we both be scum? He discounted the possibility completely before even giving it a thought, which to me kinda means he already knows we're both town.

I do want to see more communication from my big 3 (Irish, Snipe and Nodlied) before tomorrow night. Especially interactions.