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  1. [GAME OVER- ATREIDES VICTORY] Battle for Dune Mafia 1

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    Name: Lefos

    Role: Smuggler (Town)

    Night Action: ##exchange <target> - Rummage through your target's inventory and pick an item to swap with your current item (if any)

    Item: Spice Cylinder

     

    Not an exact copy paste, but it covers everything. I tried to exchange with Shade last night and spent the night in a cell, and still have my spice cylinder. Item thieves are generally hostile alignments, but this one works like an item cop I suppose, if I decide not to use any of the items I find. I figured Shade had an item that would roleblock a visitor and used it last night. I targeted him because he actually hinted to having an item.

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  2. [GAME OVER- ATREIDES VICTORY] Battle for Dune Mafia 1

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    Just now, ChopBam said:

    Your personal expressions of incredulity are unconvincing to me.

    I'd hope that even you would admit that lynching you at this point should answer more questions that we really need to have answered.

    I can agree with that, however I prefer scum not wiggle their way out of the mess they're in. I was hoping to get rid of my item too.

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  6. [GAME OVER- ATREIDES VICTORY] Battle for Dune Mafia 1

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    1 minute ago, ChopBam said:

    Finding the partner is indeed one piece of the puzzle. Usually I put bigger stock in this piece of the puzzle, but honestly you've been all over the place this game, and considering the combination of the numerous disconnected bits with all the chaos and confusion you've introduced this game, I'm happy to eliminate some of that confusion and chaos by lynching a liar. If you are town, then this is something you pretty much did to yourself.

    So you're going to ignore the blatant scumslip from Shade including the argument I posted in favor of voting me because I was haphazard in my play? Yikes.

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  15. [GAME OVER- ATREIDES VICTORY] Battle for Dune Mafia 1

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    8 minutes ago, Shade939 said:

    Also, what's up with you're laser focus on me having a passive ability to role block players @ Jeod ?

    We literally have Louis claiming a role blocker who targeted you and Category 5 has the ability to influence other players actions, and you're response is Shade must have role blocked me after I tried to pass an item to him that disappeared, if anything I'd assume you're trying to cover up that you used an item and visited me last night.

    So you're saying I wasn't jailed now? Is that what you're saying?

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  17. [GAME OVER- ATREIDES VICTORY] Battle for Dune Mafia 1

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    There's a lot to quote here so I'm just reading from Day 2 and writing my responses to the timeline.

    DAY 2 - https://w3dhub.com/forum/topic/427942-day-2-battle-for-dune-mafia-1/?do=findComment&comment=727980

    Shade has claimed vanilla, with no abilities or items

    With no nightkill, Shade immediately posts that the previous night was "interesting". One would expect Town to react with a bit more surprise. Chopbam catches this and asks about this very point.

    Shade simply responds that Chopbam should know what's so "interesting". Shade knows he's been visited and his self-defense has been triggered, and here is looks like he thinks Chopbam did the visiting.

    I chime in with the most likely possibility. Shade's reaction to this statement, if he were town and had a self-defense blocking ability, should be different. Instead, since Shade is scum, he responds differently.

    I threaten to shoot Shade. Obviously, scum being daykilled with no nightkill would be a major setback. This is where Shade starts to get tunnel vision. Fortunately for him, FRAYDO brings up the excellent point that there are no daykills. (Honestly here I'm not sure why he didn't just let me question Chopbam like I wanted and see how that played out)

    Shade takes control of the discussion by asserting the two possibilities are a blocked nightkill and a no-nightkill, and says only the latter needs to be discussed. Why? He goes on to state that whoever could have prevented the NK should come out and state it (so they can be nightkilled after a mislynch?).

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    Now we'll shift over to my point of view. Louis starts questioning me, and Shade thinking I'm a threat to him is all too eager to latch onto it. At this point I know that I attempted to pass my item and that I was put in a cell overnight. So I know that I got roleblocked, and knowing that jailers can be protection roles, and given Shade just asked them to come out, I wanted to tread carefully.

    Shade immediately starts probing Louis to see if she prevented the kill. My reaction is to lump Louis and Shade together and wave it off by saying I passed my item. I try to redirect the discussion to Chopbam again--worth noting that at this stage of the game I believed Chopbam could be scum. Unfortunately I make the mistake of saying Louis should just come out and say if she blocked me, which is what Shade is looking for.

    I adjust my stance. Louis hasn't explicity said she's a jailer, so I soften the roleblock. I suggest my PM was vague, that I "probably" didn't pass my item, etc. I then try to get back to Chopbam, but Shade of course is in control. At this stage I start paying more attention to Shade acting scummy and possibly being a partner to Chopbam, who was my initial soft scumread. Shade and Chopbam start going back and forth a bit. Again, Shade remains in control of the discussion and I can barely get any words into Chopbam.

    Here my stance changes, as a result: https://w3dhub.com/forum/topic/427942-day-2-battle-for-dune-mafia-1/?do=findComment&comment=728091

    Shade is becoming a stronger scumread than Chopbam, so I shift my focus to him. I tell him I targeted him because on Day 1, he wifom'd a potential bulletproof item by saying scum would have to nightkill him. Note they keyword here: bulletproof. Where has that come up recently?

    While at work I'm limited to my phone for posting, as well as prone to interruptions to train of thought (I'm at work, duh). I'm just now reading about what happened to TheIrishMan and trying to get a summary. Shade obliges, but reading back now I'm noticing that Shade never asked TheIrishMan about his claims. He took them as fact and just backed him when I clarified if my summary was right.

    Let's pause here. At this stage in the game, scum Shade only knows that Louis claimed to roleblock me and that TheIrishMan was jailed (presumably by Cat5 thanks to Chopbam's guessing). Scum Shade has no idea that Louis was redirected to TheIrishMan, nor does anyone for that matter. Despite this, he still accepts the idea that there are two roleblockers in the game immediately. Why? Because his scum partner confirmed what happened in the scumdoc.

    Back to the posts--I disclose that Louis is a jailer, and add that jailers are protection roles. I default to that idea because, on epicmafia (where I was first introduced to the game over a decade ago), the jailer role chooses a target and opens a masonry with them for the night, and simultaneously prevents their choice from being targeted by anything else for the night. I'm used to the jailer role being a protective town, like doctor.

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    I'll fast-forward here since I feel it's redundant to go through posts within the 12 hour window. I already provided the logical trail that led me to guess Cat5 was softing bus driver before he openly claimed it. I will however respond to this post from Chopbam: https://w3dhub.com/forum/topic/427942-day-2-battle-for-dune-mafia-1/?do=findComment&comment=728244

    It's bullshit. I made up the manifest part. :v I was at work during the jailer revelation so bringing up that my item was still in my inventory didn't ener my train of thought. What smuggler uses a manifest?

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    Irish, you seem a little lost. Where did anyone say anything about a self-defense jailer? I've been saying that Shade has a self-defense roleblock ability since I was put in a cell after visiting him. Thanks for agreeing that it's likely though. As for pressing inconsistencies, I've been working my angle as just explained. If you've spotted inconsistencies, why haven't you brought them up?

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  25. [GAME OVER- ATREIDES VICTORY] Battle for Dune Mafia 1

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    3 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said:

    But I think the case works better assuming that Jeod was slowly revealing he was jailed/blocked. But unless there is a second unclaimed jailor/blocker, he wasn't.

    I spent the night in a cell. Matches up with what Louis said. I still don't know what you do if you're not a bus driver, but unless Louis' ability was duplicated somehow then there must be a second.

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