TheIrishman

##vote 48hours Updated Table: Players Character Race Skills N0 N1 N2 Sunflower Aayla Secura Twi’lek ? [Wis] Learn T1 Resist Dark Side Learn T2 +10 Max FP Learn 1 Resist Dark Side Shade939 Dare Komad Whiphid [Con] [Wis] Learn T1 + Protect Self Duel Dead OrangeP47 Unknown Unknown [Dex] [Cha] Holo-Pad – Shade Track Force TheIrishman – No Force Used Learn T1 Track Force Nodlied – Sense Alignment Learn 2 Track Force – TheIrishman – No Force Used Nodlied Unknown Unknown [Con] [Int] Learn T1 Learn T2 Sense Force – Voe, Fear Sense Force – TheIrishman, Light Jeod Darth Voss “Human” [Dex] [Cha] Learn T1 ? (-10 FP) Learn T2 Duel Killing_You Unknown Mandalorian ? [Wis] “Failed Holo-Pad – Orange” +10 Max FP Learn T1 Learn T2 Retaliation Tachanka Unknown [Con] [Wis] Learn T1 +10 Max FP Learn T2 +10 Max FP Learn T1 +10 Max FP Category 5 Christina Starleaper “Kiffar” ? [Wis] Learn T1 Learn T2 Learn T1 Mind Meld - Nodlied TheIrishman Faelyn The Seeker Stennes Shifter [Con] [Int] Learn T1 Learn T2 Duel Learn T1 Learn T2 FRAYDO Unknown Unknown ? [Cha] Holo-Pad – Orange Track Force TheIrishman – No Force Used Sense Meditation Force Track Orange – Force Track 2 T1? Voe Hermit VolDergar Kaleesh [Str] [Int] Learn 2 T1 Learn 2 T2 Duel Chopbam Unknown “Human” [Dex] [Wis] Learn T1 Learn T2 Mind Meld – Nodlied

Yeah, you're misunderstanding. You're able to both Learn AND perform an NFA regardless of your attribute. I was saying that you, ChopBam, and KY are the only ones who chose to just Learn, meaning all of you had the potential to perform a Dark Side NFA if it's free.

Yeah, I know your attribute now. Looking back, your apparent slip that implied you had Intelligence was probably intentional to mislead, since you always love to do that. Which makes me even more certain that you're Town. Are you mentioning this in response to what I just said? I wasn't saying you had Intelligence.

Well your argument is one of the main reasons I do still suspect, Retaliation. The people aren't actually "cleared", it's just that it would almost be nonsensical for them to do what they did and still be Scum. Granted, it's happened before. Why would ChopBam be looking at what Nodlied did if he we Scum? It could be argued that as Scum, since he knew Nodlied had a Cop ability, he wanted to know the result, but that's unlikely. The same could be said about Cat5. Although Chaos_Knight (Scum in a the game) was forced to continuously "help" Town by tracking people in a game before, I don't see it happening in a game like this Nodlied is "cleared" because he's used the Cop ability twice. FRAYDO is a little hazy. He claimed to use Sense Meditation and Force Track, but it was also the night that Voe got corrupted and he's the only one with such a huge loss of FP. Orange has the whole Force Ghost thing to back him up. I got cleared because Orange tracked me while Nodlied checked my alignment. Voe sort of got cleared since claiming to be corrupted along with Nod's result seems to point towards him being Town. I'm not sure he could've been converted either if that's how it really works, since he couldn't have done anything last night, nor could he have been targeted, so I think he gets a pass. But he should use the Light Meditation Technique as soon as possible. The only thing that brings my attention back to Killing You, Cat5, and ChopBam is how many actions they've done. They're the only people that have limited themselves to only Learning one thing for multiple nights, leaving them an opportunity to use a Dark Side NFA or SA, assuming it's free. But again it says for NFA that you can only choose one per night phase, but we know that 2 of these people did something last night. The only one who didn't use a Light NFA is KY, yet the FBI shifted once again towards the Dark Side. This is all under the assumption that Scum aren't able to use both a Light NFA and a Dark NFA at the same time.

Tonight might be the best night for us to investigate potential Scum if the game doesn't end today. Majority of players are at low FP, which means they "have to" Rest to recover their FP. Which tells us they literally can't do anything else, so if there is some Dark Side ability to tamper with results, anybody who Rests can't use it. The only problem is that the prime suspect left on the table, KY, still has 50 FP left. I usually don't like voting so soon, but Vert wants us to end the day in 24 hours. ##Vote Sith Killing You Retaliation, I'm still hesitant that Shade contacted you (mostly because, aside from KY, that leaves only Sunflower and maybe FRAYDO), but since you've offered yourself every other time, do you want to be the Champion? Sunflower, Jeod's reaction is proof enough I think. I doubt he'd pretend to be pissed about it and basically get himself killed just to help solidify a made-up ability for Orange.

Ah, alright. I think I can guess what your action does then. This is probably going to bring you right back to me, but since you brought it up, there's a possibility that the result can be wrong for Sense Force, so don't trust it too heavily. It basically says in parenthesis that some people can hide their alignment in the Light. I'd guess with a Dark Side ability. And before you think I did, I learned Sense and Sense-Alter last night.

Well, this is getting a bit annoying because you, Nodlied, and Retaliation were my main suspects and now everyone seems to be getting "cleared". Incentive for him to stay rather than to rage quit. Yeah, my top two suspects at the time. Um...I think you're talking about when he asked whether Nodlied had it and then I pointed out that he shouldn't because we were just told by Verti about the whole Int, Wis, and Cha affecting which night actions we have. 13 HP isn't something I'd consider dire enough to Rest since it'd waste the potential 40 FP for learning last night. Control Meditation would be even worse since it'd knock off 25 FP while I couldn't even learn. Although I'm generally lazy, I like to be efficient with things when I can. Star Wars is my shit. I was explaining Star Wars lore to a guy who doesn't know Star Wars. After someone reminded me that there are 3 different starting abilities based on which Force Focus you chose >.> FRAYDO and Orange said they didn't have it, but I figured they'd most likely learn it later. They probably chose Sense, while Jeod probably chose Control. I'm actually tempted to get rid of the "claimed abilities" column since I can just put quotations around them and it'll leave more room for future nights.

Huh...somewhat believable.

Ugh, god. I really don't want to have to look back and find where you said, but I'm fairly certain you claimed Wisdom, ChopBam. If that's the case, you shouldn't have Sense Force like myself, Voe, Cat5, and Nodlied. Also you're missing 30 FP, where Cat5's action should've cost him only 10 FP (if he used Sense Force). A little note, both Shade and Jeod are missing 10 FP this round. So I'm inclined to believe Orange about the ghosts, especially due to Jeod's reaction. Considering Jeod is probably a Sith Ghost, albeit almost certainly an absent one, I think that points to everyone turning into a ghost upon death. If that's the case Sunflower, that means it should've been N1 where you actually performed 2 T1 actions. Btw, you seem to be doing a relatively fine job for you first game. I'm not sure I believe Retaliation that he was contacted by Shade. He waited until over half of everyone posted, then claims he was contacted right when Sunflower was starting to build a good case against him? And when Orange asks for proof, he claims it's cheating? Is it? Orange isn't asking for a quote from their doc, Shade could just mention something in general that they talked about in the previous doc. I'm confused why "he" mentioned that. Updated table. If anything is wrong, let me know. Players Character Race Skills Claimed Abilities N0 N1 N2 Sunflower Aayla Secura Twi’lek ? [Wis] None Learn T1 ? (-10 FP) Learn T2 +10 Max FP 2 T1? Shade939 Dare Komad Whiphid [Con] [Wis] None Learn T1 + Protect Self Duel Dead OrangeP47 Unknown Unknown [Dex] [Cha] None Holo-Pad – Shade Track Force TheIrishman – No Force Used Learn T1 Track Force Nodlied – Sense Force T1? T2? Nodlied Unknown Unknown [Con] [Int] None Learn T1 Learn T2 Sense Force – Voe, Fear T1? Jeod Darth Voss “Human” [Dex] [Cha] None Learn T1 ? (-10 FP) Learn T2 Duel Killing_You Unknown Mandalorian ? [Wis] None “Failed Holo-Pad – Orange” +10 Max FP Learn T1 T2? Retaliation Tachanka Unknown [Con] [Wis] None Learn T1 +10 Max FP Learn T2 +10 Max FP 2 T1? Category 5 Christina Starleaper “Kiffar” ? [Int] None Learn T1 Learn T2 Sense Force - Nodlied T2? TheIrishman Faelyn The Seeker Stennes Shifter [Con] [Int] None Learn T1 Learn T2 Duel Learn T1 Learn T2 FRAYDO Unknown Unknown ? [Cha] None Holo-Pad – Orange Track Force TheIrishman – No Force Used Sense Meditation Force Track Orange – Force Track 2 T1? Voe Hermit VolDergar Kaleesh [Str] [Int] None Learn 2 T1 Learn 2 T2 Duel Chopbam Unknown “Human” [Dex] [Wis] None Learn T1 Learn T2 T2?

Sunflower, I just want to clarify something. If I'm correct, the ability you used is the same one Killing You and Retaliation used to increase their maximum FP. Is that what your ability was as well?

Well, Jeod being Scum explains a lot. It does give a bad taste about it with how it ended (the whole I'll give up, nah I'll play, then fuck it all thing), but one step closer to victory. Also heads up, the FBI meter did shift back towards the light after Jeod's death. Also Jeod actually did have a red lightsaber. I'm not sure he knew that lightsabers are shown upon duel when he made his character, which makes me think back to Retaliation. You just like that your friends did well :b To that I say, good job Shade and Sunflower for helping start the train to get Jeod "lynched". Now I'm not so sure about Nodlied. Unless Jeod was trying to strengthen his teammate before he died. But considering he did turn out to be Scum, maybe his teammate really is Sunflower. Sunflower, can you tell us what you did besides learn for N1? Voe, did you end up learning the Light Meditation Technique?

That's not certain, it's just the extra reward I got. It could be random or a tier list. Like 1 win get's you the Light Meditation Technique, 2 wins gets you [insert OP One-Time Use action here] I haven't read anything about absorbing another's power. It's not canon as far as I know, you got a reference? They just take take control of their seat of power.

Jeod and Nodlied are my top suspects right now. For my next tier, it'd be FRAYDO and Retaliation, but I'm not nearly as certain with them, and you're excluded until tomorrow. Jeod...Voe's learned 3 T1 skills and 2 T2 skills. Assuming his cost the same as my one T2, he should only need 9FP to use all his abilities in a duel.

I could see it since he was already being pushed a decent bit as suspect. Before N1 even started, both you and FRAYDO claimed a Force Tracker ability. I think FRAYDO even stated his opinions against Nodlied (I'd have to double check on that), so Nod could use a Town ability while his partner would corrupt Voe. But that's just how it could've worked.

Nodlied claiming to not be interested in learning Alter when we know he has intelligence and can learn 2 abilities, and that he's also claimed no interest in learning a T3 ability. Considering he only lost 10 FP and Verti60 (in a very roundabout fashion) confirmed Dark Side abilities to be free, he could've learned one of those skills. If you add in that nothing that anyone's noticed happened N0 but the FBI meter still shifted, it seems pretty likely. The main difference is the reason behind it. I wholeheartedly believe that Cat5 didn't know that he could, while Nodlied admitted he knew that he could but claimed disinterest. By the way, another thing of note. The only person who hasn't said their N1 action is Sunflower, but I doubt she's Scum, so the corrupting action for Scum is probably free too. The only action unaccounted for N0 for is Jeod. It could also be related to the shift in FP, which adds another reason he's suspicious, but the trend seems to be that Dark Side actions are free, unless it's an unlikely Jeod and Sunflower Scum team. ##Vote Champion Jeod ##Vote Sith Nodlied

Jeod, I'm planning to vote you Champion and Nodlied Sith, but only if you're going continue to play and contribute if you win. If you're going to give up either way, then ##Vote Champion Voe. And at least Voe might be able to purge himself of the Dark Side.

There's 3 main advantages. 1. You get to use a Force Power while they have none. (The biggest advantage, especially if we end up unlocking OHKO moves) 2. You get to use your Maneuver Form while they have none. (but remember that it uses more stamina) 3. You can use the Offensive Stance while they have to use the default, meaning when their turn starts, they'll have only 75 or 80 Stamina, but you'll be completely open and down to a minimum of 40-50 stamina. This one isn't really much of an advantage.

Yeah, Nodlied would be my next choice.

Fair, he's one of the top Scum suspects (if not the top), but it's just so disheartening to see someone give up like that so I figured the risk was worth it, especially if we paired him up against Voe, who should be able to defend himself well. Oh well.

Incentive. If he doesn't want to play and he also feels like he won't have a chance at winning, then he'll just surrender. But if he's given Champion, which should increase his chances of winning, he might be more willing to play. But at this moment, I'm not very hopeful. Probably a 90% chance he's done with the game from that attitude.

Well Jeod, I hope you stay. If you decide you'll actually fight for it, I'll vote you as the champion, but for now... ##vote Sith Jeod

As for Orange and Nodlied, FRAYDO mentioned how insistent Orange was on tracking Nodlied. Add that in to how Nodlied didn't use his Intelligence to learn two abilities for N0 and supposedly for N1 and Orange claiming Nod did a very Town ability, it seem suspicious. Jeod, shouldn't you take your own advice that you gave Shade - to not just surrender. If you win a fight, you'll stay in and keep playing, if you lose, at least you tried.

The reason why I suspected Orange and FRAYDO is because FRAYDO basically forced Orange to admit what he did, possibly creating false tension between them. The result from it is both Orange and FRAYDO being "cleared" with their night actions. And I'm not sure if the Charisma attribute actually lets you have 2 Holo-pads open, it might be a cover for them to be openly partners, while keeping a good cover for them to be following the Dark Side instead. It'd be pretty clever for them to do, maybe too clever, which is why I'd be leaning more for Orange and Nodlied. As for Orange and Nodlied, FRAYDO mentioned how insistent Orange was on tracking Nodlied. Add that in to how... Jeod, really? Updated Table: Players Character Race Skills Claimed Abilities N1 N2 Sunflower Aayla Secura Twi’lek ? ? None Learn T1 Learn T2 ? (-10 FP) Shade939 Dare Komad Whiphid [Con] [Wis] None Learn T1 + Protect Self Duel OrangeP47 Unknown Unknown [Dex] [Cha] None Holo-Pad – Shade Track Force TheIrishman – No Force Used ? (-10 FP) Track Force Nodlied – Townish ability Nodlied Unknown Unknown ? [Int] None Learn T1 Learn T2 ? (-10 FP) Jeod Unknown “Human” ? [Cha] None Learn T1 ? (-10 FP) Learn T2 Killing_You Unknown Mandalorian ? [Wis] None “Failed Holo-Pad – OP47” +10 Max FP Learn T1 Retaliation Tachanka Unknown [Con] [Wis] None Learn T1 +10 Max FP Learn T2 +10 Max FP Category 5 Christina Starleaper “Kiffar” ? [Int] None Learn T1 Learn T2 TheIrishman Faelyn The Seeker Stennes Shifter [Con] [Int] None Learn T1 Learn T2 Duel FRAYDO Unknown Unknown ? [Cha] None Holo-Pad – OP47 Track Force TheIrishman – No Force Used Sense Meditation Force Track OP47 – Force Track Voe Unknown Unknown [Str] [Int] None Learn T1 ? (-10 FP) Learn 2 T2 Chopbam Unknown “Human” [Dex] [Wis] None Learn T1 Learn T2

Well >.> I actually limited him to one free post between every 2 phases. So if he said something Day Two, he couldn't say anything until Day Three. Although I was debating whether or not to have it as an announcement post like the typewriter. He wasn't able to vote and he didn't count towards the Town player count, and he disappeared when there were only 5 players left. It was mostly to counter Kam, since I was thinking Nodlied would use his roleblock to find out who had the randomize ability, but it didn't turn out that way.

Nodlied was able to interact with the world if he died as long as there were 5 or more players alive in my CYOR - Halloween Edition. Although I think I might've vaguely insinuated it when describing why I left all players on the CVC regardless of status. I don't think dead players interacting with the living is that far-fetched. It'd actually be a relatively interesting mechanic on Vert's part so that we could enjoy more Star Wars even if we die, but I can also see how it could be a made-up ability to stall for time or for Scum to dictate who'll go up to Duel. I wonder if Force Track can be used on the dead since he still has his Force. Or if there's a watcher ability, we could use that instead. Unless both you and KY are a team, I think that ability is confirmed then. And I expect to see you both at 110 FP when you rest.