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Good, I'm glad you caught the second one, in particular. What do you think? Is the cop dead, or not?

Those are basic conclusions that can easily be made if you really think that iLTS is town. Why were you unable to come up with these, Shade? Why is your case mostly based on "Well, I think these guys are town, so the rest must be scum!"?

So, to complete the puzzle these are the two lines of logic that would support TheIrishman and Mojoman as scum. 1) If Inferno is lying about his report on iLTS, then his report on TheIrishman is also suspect. 2) If Mojoman is Mafia, then it would make sense that they killed ChopBam thinking that he was the cop.

I stopped making fake reports when I claimed Oracle. Didn't seem to be much point in continuing the fake claims when scum would know to disregard them, and it might just confuse the rest of town.

Come on man, you could complete the argument for an Inferno/Mojoman/TheIrishman scum team with just two sentences. I can make a scenario where such a team makes sense. Prove you have a town mindset and tell me how it would make sense!

Then say them.

There's a couple more steps of logic you need to make to complete that puzzle. Do you know what they are?

Yes, of course, AUM thinks that OrangeP47 is the cop and that Inferno is fake claiming, and then he has to fit Nodlied and iLTS on town so he puts Mojoman and TheIrishman on scum, because where else would they go?

Reasoning would help, though if you want to be quick about it, the list would do and then we could examine reasoning.

Does that mean you think iLTS is town?

I'll repeat that I want to see a full suspect list from everybody, from most suspicious to least.

I did ask everyone else to do the same previously, nobody followed through. I still think iLTS is scum, has been top suspect for me really since Day 1. I'm just being careful and making sure I cover all my bases before I jump on to a vote.

Part of me can't believe that a cop claim isn't being countered at LYLO, which should mean that OrangeP47 was the cop and Inferno is lying, but I also know that because iLTS, Shade, Mojoman, and TheIrishman all did not follow my cop report plan, they can't really do a counter claim if they wanted to, because it would be pretty unbelievable. If you were suspicious of iLikeToSnipe from D1, why did you check ChopBam first?

One thing I do want to ask you inferno, why TheIrishman for your most recent investigation?

One of the goals in making everyone say their investigations in advance was so that it would be harder to maintain casing consistency. Report an investigation and then contradict that report in your cases, and then claim real cop? You probably aren't the real cop.

The only person who could CC you is Nodlied, and he's like the biggest town guy right now in my opinion. It would be quite the problem for us if he did.

Why can't he be full of shit?

That's probably a bad argument. Jeod could choose to rando the roles, and in general it's best to do it that way than risk players using that type of meta to try to get ahead.

I don't think there is much chance that the scum team is Shade, Inferno, Mojoman. I'm going to have to do my homework on their positions and actions, though, to be sure.

ChopBam was the first person I believed might be the cop, as a result of that OrangeP47 "result". I thought he might not have realized that OrangeP47 was dead when he made the report, so I actually made my fake claim the same to cover his. I then saw FRAYDO's reverse on Nodlied and thought it might be him. It would have made sense that he investigated Nodlied, and I wouldn't expect a player to make a fake cop claim that reverses his previous case. Naturally, FRAYDO wasn't the cop in the end, and then ChopBam's result for N2 on Mojoman made sense to me at the time, but Inferno's result sounded more plausible to me and then iLTS switching to hound Mojoman felt like it might have been cooperation between ChopBam and iLTS with ChopBam asserting a false negative to help.

N1 OrangeP47 Town N2 Mojoman Mafia

ChopBam probably knew the previous target was Nodlied and questioned me why I was so sure, so Nodlied should be clear as well. It might be his questioning that got him killed, though my previous scenario also suggested that only him, Nodlied and TheIrishman were likely targets anyway, so it might have been just down to the scum team switching targets and the ChopBam guessing wrong. Or maybe it was the cop report, which may have been accurate even if faked.

That actually bothers me much more than it should. I should be going "Welp, that means I only have three suspects, and isn't that great?!" but I'm actually quite concerned that I have one suspect wrong, and the one that is wrong would be Mojoman. Going to have to really start digging into this game after I'm back from band practice later tonight.

Oh! Well, nevermind that.

Going to make a last-minute comment on this. Be careful of ChopBam. I'm seeing an angle where I could easily take out Mojoman from my scum team and put ChopBam in his place. His guilty claim on Mojoman didn't fit my expectations. (If iLTS and Mojoman are scum, one of them would have been targeted by the Lawyer, and I expected Mojoman to be the target. I also expected iLTS to be the natural target for the cop, not Mojoman)