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Made a typo in there "It also lowered my suspicion of you, specifically, but not enough to clear you from my list entirely."

In rough order of suspicion: OrangeP47 Sunflower Killing_You Nodlied Retaliation would be on the list too, though your corroboration of his claim adds enough credence to him that I've placed that aside for now. It also lowered my suspicion of you, specifically, but enough to clear you from my list entirely. And I realize I've listed basically everyone other than Retal and ChopBam. I don't have enough suspicion on any of them to vote for them over Shade at this time. Cases are all pretty weak, and a couple of them are just "We know next to nothing about this guy". I suspect OrangeP47 a bit higher than the rest, while the gap between Sunflower and Nodlied isn't very far and I actually struggled to rank them. The cases are slightly related to each other as well, so if one is scum, another one or two probably aren't, ect. OrangeP47 exists in most of my theorized scum teams, though.

I don't have any useful information to report at this time. I won't likely have anything to report unless I get my Backup Drive back. Well, actually, I do have something. I used the item that I received, and it did indeed have a positive benefit. It was booster. For specific reasons, I don't want to say exactly what it did yet, other then the implications of it increases my suspicion on a certain subset of players.

I wonder if this abomination can be convinced to kill it's master who caused him to die the first time?

So your abomination already exists?

Yeah, stop misrepresenting your own claim that you need to kill two as "I only need to kill one". It's still nearly impossible for you to meet your claimed goal, and that still looks bad for you.

You know, it's actually a fair point that I don't think you would be that likely to kill TheIrishman, maybe even as scum. Regardless, if nothing else comes to light that looks like it would net us a Mafia, you're probably going down today. There is no reason to put off lynching a self-identified hostile.

I mean, why would you jump out of the gate going "IT WASN'T ME WASN'T ME" when you told us prior that you needed to collect bodies and then make kills?

I am assuming that either scum was roleblocked (which would mean YOU or Retaliation) or that they had a reason to not do a kill.

Let me add one more layer to that. You're sure that town made the kill, and while doing so you also tried to label me or ChopBam as responsible for it. Are you therefore admitting that you know full well what our alignments are?

I could take it entirely the other direction and say "Well, if Shade is Mafia AND he didn't do the NK AND he knows nobody on their team did the NK, he might know that town did the kill" which would explain why you are so insistent that such a thing occurred.

Yeah, I'm not too sure about that, AUM.

Man, I wish I had the materials on hand to make a Phoenix-Wright-style page of evidence full of incriminating evidence. 6 in. Knife - Found in Shade's room. Covered in the victim's blood with Shade's prints on it. Autopsy report. - Victim's wound is 6 in. deep, knife shaped Confession - Shade literally said he kills people.

Alternate-Universe Man, I'm going to have to remind you that your intial claim that town killed him came before you knew he had my backup drive (which doesn't add risk to the player who has it. It's a backup. What do you think it does, AUM?) and that it's foolish to think that town would do a NK while the scum team does not, no matter what you think ChopBam's GM-confirmed role is. I'll also point out that, in this universe, you will see that I did not overlook Irish's ability to function as a role cop. That's WHY I think scum were likely to kill him.

I can't control how fast you read my text, so instead of trying to type slowly for clarity, I'm just gonna have to ask you to read it slowly. Ok? If AUM is Third Party and sees TheIrishman die and didn't do the kill himself, how is it logical for AUM to think that Town made the kill, and not the Scum team.

Hello, Alternate-Universe Man. Can I call you AUM for short? Thanks. AUM, in which alternate universe did I suggest that you were a likely target for scum?

Damn, I should have told him to pass it. While I thought TheIrishman's rolecop/roleblock combo put him at risk of being killed, I thought either Sunflower or Retaliation would be bigger targets, presuming at least one of them is town. My item is out of play now, which is a shame. Shade saying that "I didn't do it, town must have" sure sounds like we're actually looking at a mafia player, not a Third Party. If he was Third Party, what reason would he have to think that scum wouldn't kill him?

For the person who has my B__ku_ D_i_v_ item, I may have made a mistake about how that item works. I asked Jeod some questions about it but I haven't received an answer yet, so I want you to hold on to the item and do not use it.

ChopBam drawing the lynch on himself totally makes sense now. I like it. Clever use of the role, though I hope you retain the ability to vote?

What makes you say that?

Yeah, frankly so many things would have to happen just to allow him to have a chance, that I'm not inclined to believe this story.

Do you think someone with ongoing lies that isn't town or even neutral should be left alive?

Yeah, I've been wondering when someone was going to bring that up, as I've noticed it myself. However, that shouldn't cause you suspicion when you just finished saying that you're "pretty certain" Retaliation is town.

After doing the math, I'm declaring this role as basically impossible. To even have a chance of this working, the Mafia would have to fail to NK every night while never being lynched, and then the two kills would have to make sure to target mafia over town, else the game might still end too early. This claim is absurd. This guy is lying about something. It's either his role, alignment, or both. ##vote Shade939

If he's following traditional mafia rules, yes. Mafia has to outnumber EVERYONE. They win when they match 50% or more because they control the vote. If they don't reach 50%, then they don't control the vote, therefore it's still possible for others to win.