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I'm baffled. I don't see how anyone has suggested that/
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Of course it isn't! You've been told the other two ways already!
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Well, again, only if the Kira/Deathnote is already active, which it might not be.
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Jeod had an interesting answer to that, actually. I don't find it as viable though, but I can totally see such a game changing ability having a harsh penalty that you have to somehow live through. I just don't think that will turn out correct. I think Shinigami Eyes will be a passive ability that activates in docs, and can also be used actively instead of a killing action if required. So one person is probably known now.
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For it to be a purchase, there has to be a trade. In the context of this game, what can a Kira trade to get this "kill outside of the written rules" ability?
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I disagree. It seems pretty obvious to me. It says by investigation (which we know), night action (so a scum role cop role), or some other action (which sounds like doc access to me). The fact that the names must be revealed means that the Kira can't just choose a player and shoot. Can't. Which is to say, it isn't that it is risky to do so without knowing who it is, they can't. Which is probably why no death occurred N1. If we had investigated someone who was "town" on N1, that person would be dead now (unless the Kira/Deathnote combo doesn't actually exist yet, I suppose). The Kira might know someone's name now, but I doubt it. Nobody seems to have had any action done to them...other than me maybe? I still have an extra 25 points that I don't know anything about...and nobody apparently knew they could visit during the night. Along those lines, I now wonder if I'm actually the person ChopBam is looking for since I'm the only one that seems to potentially have had an action done on himself.
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Do I have to post the requirements for use of the Death Note again?
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I don't believe Voe's claim at all. Frankly, I think he's trolling.
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Though I did think now was hammer, so whatever.
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VERTi60's last CVC said there is another hour left.
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The rules specifically outline that: in order to use the Death Note, the victim's identity (player's character name) has to be revealed to the killer first (either by public investigation, other night action, or some other means). Just by mentioning some character's name in game however will not cut it, the killer needs to know the real identity of the specific player first. The mafia team clearly does not know any names right now unless they used actions during the night to do so. I'm certain that one of those actions would be being in a doc with another player with Shinigami Eyes active.
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What exactly do you think, then? If you think they don't need to be in a doc to learn of someone's name, then what is required?
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So, I've done some reading about this series, and I'm now quite alarmed about ChopBam and Chaos_Knight. This discussion about whether names would be revealed when invited to a doc didn't seem like much to me, given that I know nothing about the series. But now that I've seen that these Shinigami Eyes reveal names on sight, makes it indeed seem like entering a doc would reveal names to one who had these powers. With that in mind, I feel that one of ChopBam and Chaos_Knight are one of the people with said power. Either ChopBam who stated it, or Chaos_Knight who caught the "slip". I'm leaning towards Chaos_Knight because it's easier to know what a slip is when you are a mafia player who is trying to avoid one. Knowing what a "slip" might be makes it easy to trap someone who accidentally says something that might be suspicious if taken out of context. Furthermore, given that Chaos_Knight thinks it is a slip that people can have their names revealed by being in docs with someone who has Shinigami Eyes, I'm not sure why Chaos would feel like it's a good idea to let everyone run around. ##vote Chaos_Knight I may have more on ChopBam in a bit. I need to understand the material better before I proceed.
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There is apparently a lot I don't understand about this game, because even though I'm taking his word that he needs it, I have no idea how it's used or what it does. And I have more points to give out than anybody else, for reasons I don't understand. The amount more I have than everybody else has evidently increased from 15 to 25! I guess that could make me slightly more important than others if I ever figure out what to do with it.
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I want to know why we're actively pushing others over ChopBam in trust. What's the goal there? But at the same time, why isn't ChopBam bothered by this as he's the one who proposed the idea in the first place? Also, I've noted Jeod effectively surrendering the argument and also trying to get someone else higher in suspicion. He clearly doesn't like the position he's in right now. I want to say quite a few other things but these are the major points right now. I'll be back around two hours before when I think hammer is. Hopefully I have it right this time.
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I still think that Jeod is oddly concerned over having suspicion points directed at him, to the point of now saying we'll lose because of it. Why will we lose because of Voe using up his proposal points on you?
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Also, I want to add that I would totally believe that the Deathnote holder may have D1 lynch protection to prevent the game ending before it begins. The fact that Jeod is preoccupied by something that supposedly won't impact him to the point where he suggested we "do something" about his suspicion level, indicates to me that he indeed has something to worry about. That doesn't tell me what his allgience is, but I'm not inclined to worry about his situation.
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Well, I'll help narrow it down by saying it isn't me you are seeking. At least, I think it isn't. The only thing I am puzzled about is why I have 15 more points than everybody else. As best as I can tell, nothing happened to me last night. Is that a mistake? As far as what ChopBam is claiming, I have no reason to believe he'd be pulling some gambit to get someone killed. I can't imagine anyone sticking their neck out like that without a good reason. With that in mind, I want to help him get whatever it is he needs done. ##PROPOSE TRUST 22 ChopBam
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Oh, balls, I thought hammer was tomorrow. Well, I still don't have any idea what I'm supposed to be doing at this point, so I guess it doesn't matter. I'm going to watch some of this show to see if it'll help.
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So if kills can only happen if names are known, then investigations technically help the "bad guys" maybe more than the good guys, I guess? Do they need to know the existence of a name in the game before they can kill it or can they just guess?
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What is wise and what isn't is going to depend on what everyone else does. Jeod, you look like you know the most about what's going on. Help me get up to speed, here.
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That happened earlier than I expected. I'll pick up Moonsense's role if necessary.
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So, are either of these games likely to be starting soon?
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I do actually really like the concept and normally I'd be jumping at the chance to play this with perhaps more excitement than usual, but at the moment, the most I am willing to do is be a fill-in. Whether I'm willing to be a field-filler or not depends on if the game can even attract enough attention for that to matter.
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