Killing_You

That makes me uneasy. There's no easy way to tell who's voting for him for town points and who is doing it to accomplish the town objective.

So how does this fit in with...

Little strange that you're putting forth these instructions in public.

Unless you pass ravioli, I'm stumped.

Yeah she kinda told us a while back.

Don't do it, Sunflower. If it's a one-time use, we'll need it for emergencies.

Voteblocking I believed due to the CVC, but I didn't buy the part about him being unable to use actions.

I was going to save this, but Orange has a block himself if we need it. It also just occurred to me that Shade might be able to raise his abomination during the day. ##constrict Shade

I'd like to know what you were up to last night, personally.

Thanks.

I had a feeling that abomination wasn't active.

Just me it looks like. Although, I want to test something real quick. ##vote FRAYDO

Disregard this message, I'm not stuck in another town like I thought I would be. Considering we're pretty sure that the alternative is a town loss? Yes.

Just a heads-up, I'll likely be absent until tomorrow afternoon, about 6 hours before hammer. Hopefully I'll be back beforehand, though.

Sounds like there's a few scenarios regarding this. 1. He's already made his abomination. (This is what he appears to be claiming.) -Doubtful. I would imagine that he'd need to spend some nights gathering the corpses first. Even if he only needed one body, I would think he'd need a separate night action in order to complete it. If he could create his from one corpse and on the same night as he gathered it, then he could've secured his victory Night 1 with nothing that town could've done to stop it, barring a nolynch or roleblock. As far as I can tell, this would be highly OP, and I don't think this is what we're dealing with. 2. He has the materials for his abomination, but he needs one more night to create it. -Somewhat more likely, but I still doubt this is the case. We'd need to lynch him today to prevent its creation. 3. He doesn't have enough materials for his abomination, and needs more time to create it. -This, I think, is closer to the truth. In fact, I'd wager that his actual win condition involves gathering two bodies, then creating his creature, and then having it kill a certain amount of players (probably one or two). We'd have a bit of time to work with in this case, but honestly, I'd rather get a known hostile out of the way sooner rather than later. 4. He's lying about his win condition. -Unlikely. He was pretty confident that town would help him out (even though he may have fudged the numbers). The only scenarios I can see this being the case are if he's scum or town. And like I said, if he's town it's on him, and if he's scum he needs to die. Regarding the abomination itself, I'd imagine there would be a way to put it down. Sunflower, you may want to save that daykill. Something tells me that we just might need it.

Honestly speaking, I severely doubt Orange is scum. Might be best not to say for now, but I'm 90% sure he's town.

Interesting. Who else is on your suspect list, might I ask?

Aw cripes I forgot to fill in Choppy's info. Oh well, I don't think it's important enough to warrant a major update. Assuming everyone's telling the truth, though, then Nodlied and Cat5 need to give their night reports (unless I missed them), as one of them may be the killer.

Alright, allow me to attempt to continue Irish's legacy. Players Character Alignment Role Items N1 N2 Sunflower ? ? Roleblocker ? Roleblocked Retal Roleblocked Shade- Failed Shade Frankenstein Third Party Build-a-bear ? Roleblocked Gather Corpse- FRAYDO OrangeP47 ? ? ? ? ? Item Stolen Nodlied ? ? ? ? ? ? Killing You Burmese Python Town Tracker None ? Stalk Retaliation Retaliation ? ? Hostile Counter? ? Roleblocked Mind Worm Nodlied Category 5 ? ? Watcher ? Watch Shade Got Item ? TheIrishman John Sublime Neutral Witch Backup Drive Possess Shade Target Retal Pass Item Got Item Died FRAYDO Johnny Bravo Town ? Mirror ChopBam ? ? ? ? Pie Shade ? Oh no I think I broke something here. Argh.

I'm fine with the daykill, though I shouldn't be the deciding vote on that. Also, do you have a report from last night?

How do we stop it, in that instance?

You still haven't put forth anything that suggests that you won't need to be eliminated sooner or later. At best, your arguments would delay the inevitable.

He's dead. Why would he care?

...So? Per the win condition: You've admitted to your win condition involving killing two players. By your OWN admission, town needs to kill you to win. If you're telling the truth, you're anti-town. If you're lying and mafia, you're anti-town. If you're lying and town, you brought this on yourself.

Do you have a better suspect?