Retaliation Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 If we go down this route, I doubt sunflower would have come up with this plan herself. Who amongst us is devious enough to try that kind of plan? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: In both cases, Sunflower was helping out town be revealing her abilities and what she had done with them. Plus, I'd call this her first Mafia game since Verti's was a bit unusual by comparison to this one. That was my initial thought, but I also thought she would be the most likely to die as a result. She didn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: That was my initial thought, but I also thought she would be the most likely to die as a result. She didn't. They did pick the more dangerous roleblocker though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: If we go down this route, I doubt sunflower would have come up with this plan herself. Who amongst us is devious enough to try that kind of plan? Hmm, putting it that way, it seems farfetched. I'm not sure any of the possible suspects would think such a ploy would work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 39 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: It's been so long since I had a proper scum role, I don't even know if I could tell you. The last two "scum" games I remember were the Debt Note game where I played as town anyway and actually did get town to trust me even though they knew I was scum because I was actively helping them reach their objective for as long as I could (rather than threatening them all the time, take note Shade), and the Killer Mine Layer game where I was converted to Third Party after the scum team was eliminated, and all I had to do was abuse the ghost distractions that VERTi60 added to the game until I won. I feel like I do pretty bad as scum, I remember that. I feel like the one thing I probably can't do when scum that I would do as town, is get into a heated debate with someone. When I know the facts aren't with me, it's pretty hard to go on the attack. There's also that five player cop game where you had no trouble steamrolling town because NoSpoons decided to lie for some reason. Unfortunately, said game got nuked by the forum upgrade that happened shortly after it was over. Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: On the Nodlied case, if we consider why TheIrishman was killed, it may have been that he was a priority kill, in the case that Nodlied is scum. Assuming only teammate, there is only one player left that can kill TheIrishman. They might have been forced to kill him just to make sure they can. And who would that be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 I think if Sunflower is scum, her claims were her own idea. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Was anyone roleblocked last night? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: Was anyone roleblocked last night? A failed attempt was directed at me. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 I would lean towards OrangeP47 or Killing_You if Nodlied were revealed to be Mafia. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Why did it fail? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: I would lean towards OrangeP47 or Killing_You if Nodlied were revealed to be Mafia. What's your reasoning? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: Why did it fail? I'd assume because it's not the only useful ability Sunflower has. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Pretty much solely because I think a daytime roleblocker is more likely to be a mafia role. So, if Nodlied is scum, one of the daytime roleblockers is the teammate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Shade939 said: I'd assume because it's not the only useful ability Sunflower has. Oh right, her roleblock is flawed. I don't think she can be scum then. Nodlied couldn't kill Irish, and sun has an alibi. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 If that's the case, I'll definitely be thrown for a loop. We might have to consider the possibility that scum have powerful enough day actions to warrant the two dayblockers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 K_Y, since you already roleclaimed and have announced your N2 target, what was your N1? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Off the top of my head, I think we can relatively certain (items mess with this) I didn't kill Irish Killing_You didn't Shade didn't Sun didn't Chop didn't 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: Off the top of my head, I think we can relatively certain (items mess with this) I didn't kill Irish Killing_You didn't Shade didn't Sun didn't Chop didn't I object at adding ChopBam to that list. He could still have a NK ability that only activates after he's lynched, and I don't think he'd give a straight answer to confirm or deny it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Wouldn't you be dead if that was the case? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: K_Y, since you already roleclaimed and have announced your N2 target, what was your N1? My night 1 target was Shade. And, as he said, he didn't do anything because he was roleblocked. And since this is sure to raise questions, I should also mention that my passive renders me invisible to trackers and watchers. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Retaliation said: Wouldn't you be dead if that was the case? Assuming he thought he could target me, or didn't think that Irish was lying about his alignment. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Yes, I was going to ask why you didn't counter my watcher claim when I didn't see you visit Shade. I had already figured out that you must have done that because of Shade's hint. What has you thinking OrangeP47 is town? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killing_You Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: Yes, I was going to ask why you didn't counter my watcher claim when I didn't see you visit Shade. I had already figured out that you must have done that because of Shade's hint. What has you thinking OrangeP47 is town? Orange, pls no be mad at me for this. He masoned with me N1. I'm out of contact now, and he can only do so every other night. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 SCUM MASON. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Huh. Masonry would be an odd scum role, indeed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 By the way Category 5, what does your backup drive do if say someone was to use it after picking it up from Irish's corpse? And perhaps they were wondering if they could use it to resurrect your character after killing you... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retaliation Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Just now, Category 5 Hurricane said: Huh. Masonry would be an odd scum role, indeed. I have a patent on scum masons here, so if someone uses them you and I get royalties. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 Unlike other groups in this game, I don't exactly need my targets to stay dead in order to win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Category 5 Hurricane Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 If someone uses that Backup Drive, it copies their memories and role information. If I get it back after it is used, I can then use it to upload that to myself, inheriting the role. I lose my current set of one-time actions and become the Backup of that player. The problem I had with TheIrishman is that I failed to check to see if my item could only copy information once. I originally intended to pass it around until I had a few options to pick from, but once I realized my potential mistake I told him to hang on to it. Turns out it can copy more than once, though the previous role is overwritten, so it would have been fine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shade939 Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 4 minutes ago, Category 5 Hurricane said: If someone uses that Backup Drive, it copies their memories and role information. If I get it back after it is used, I can then use it to upload that to myself, inheriting the role. I lose my current set of one-time actions and become the Backup of that player. The problem I had with TheIrishman is that I failed to check to see if my item could only copy information once. I originally intended to pass it around until I had a few options to pick from, but once I realized my potential mistake I told him to hang on to it. Turns out it can copy more than once, though the previous role is overwritten, so it would have been fine. That's interesting, I have really to wonder what sort of roles and abilities the other players ended up with in this game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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