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Several things are on my mind. I'm more and more convinced you are Town, but your possession of the 1Up is too significant to just look over. If I am to take you as Town, I have to really convince myself that the 1Up was indeed just given to you randomly, but that just can't be. If you didn't murder Verti he must have passed it to you and that was his mechanic of doctoring at work (i.e. if you were the victim of the NK that 1Up would have saved you). The fact that you claim you cannot pass it though disproves that theory entirely, and I'm still having a hard time taking it at your word that it was just put in your inventory. You also have not claimed to have just started with it either, or I would have accepted that statement at face value. Today you have done a good job of taking away my confidence in you as Scum, but in responding to the questioning of the 1Up you're just so shifty. Seeing iLTS and KY placing their vote on Cat5 worries me. Cat5 has convinced me with his role claim that he is Town, though my masonry buddies must want me to follow their vote and cast mine on Cat5 anyway. I just can't do it. They both really can't be the remaining scum, can they? Cat5 is all over the place with his votes, and while today I gained more confidence in him he is certainly taking away less and less before I have even finished this post. Mojoman and Louis. Mojoman has to be Town. A player of dubious reputation in this game since D1, now left with nothing as a Vanilla role, and yet a target of opportunity all the same, I can't help but think his uselessness is rather useful for Scum. It's just too easy to vote him off, but why waste the NK on him when he has claimed Vanilla and no items. Louis. If I'm to believe ChopBam is scum, then Louis is scum. With my current thinking now going to a Town ChopBam, and whether or not this is manipulation at its finest, I'm now thinking Louis is really Town. Paranoia is a hell of a drug.
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HAVE I BEEN IN MASONRY WITH THE SCUM TEAM THIS WHOLE TIME
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Your defense? @Mojoman
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If only that luck would have went into my hook actions as well. I feel we would have learned much more had RNG helped me out there. Despite that, both you and iLTS took up for me where my actions failed so thanks! Now you’re talking! The fight isn’t over until the very end. Cast away the defeatist attitude of “let me kill myself so I can prove I am Town” and keep fighting the good fight with your defense, cross-examination and guts. Keep it up.
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You see the thing is, I have never claimed KY as my proof as townie. I am as unverified as you are. I’ve only made better interactions for them to have trust in me. Now then, where does your vote go?
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I cannot get behind any lynch that isn’t ChopBam. I am willing to wait for him to come back and have him lynched outright tomorrow than mislynch today.
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Sorry, masonry pal. I wanted to hear some thoughts on this possibility. What do we think of a Chop/iLTS scum team? Both would have to be playing very good scum to be pulling this off as they may be now.
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##unvote Something still doesn’t sit right. I’m thinking Chop’s clearing of her was a ploy to gain a townie on his side. Whatever angle I’m looking at, ChopBam is undoubtedly scum.
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Should Cat5 be lynched, I want the world and Fódlan to know that Edelgard did nothing wrong. *Fire Emblem fluff post
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The two who have trust in me are welcome to change their votes. I am currently on the Chop/Louis scum team.
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Despite the suspicions in my masonry with iLTS, I am now feeling more confident in Cat5. ##vote Louis
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But Louis is town, right? So in your statement, this then points to you being teamed with Cat5. Right? Or is she not town? Enlighten us.
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God, that cat meme is so old. I was still in high school at the time
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I wouldn't define it as a safe lynch. Today you're more the easy lynch, with ChopBam and Cat5 pushing for it. My mason pal suggests there is a hint of coordination between the two and we may have discovered the scum team. Being that ChopBam is unable to be voted, I am leaning toward Cat5 for today's vote. I imagine it will come down to Mojo or him today.
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If at the end of this game we find the DK thing was a GM thing to toy with us, my disappointment will be immeasurable and my day would be ruined.
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Any day actions?
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+1
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I have an idea. ##hook Louis
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I'll sleep on this and come back with a refreshed mind. I have to wonder though, what would have happened had Louis denied it? I can't think of a reason now as to why she would have, other than to throw you under the bus. However, to confirm for you and everyone that she was being sucked in and spat out, it does leave a hint of suspicion still. Not saying at this time it's you, or Louis, or anyone else (certainly not Mojo, poor guy), but someone is lying about their night action or not performing one at all. I'm not keen on casting suspicion on my mason buddy but I must consider him too. If ChopBam no longer has the inhale ability and has instead copied another, but the Mask remains on ChopBam's person, only iLTS should know what ability he currently has - and it would be there someone will be caught in their lie. Some scenarios come to mind: A) ChopBam has lied about copying another ability, thus iLTS still must have the ##Inhale. For obvious reason, we know the action didn't work. He should still be able to use the action on someone else though. This assumes the mask remained in ChopBam's possession, as Chop stated to have not been able to pass it B) ChopBam did copy another, thus taking up his night action and absolving him of the N3 NK. Perhaps he didn't read his PM, otherwise iLTS should know what new ability ChopBam has with the mask still in the latter's possession, which will also be iLTS' new ability. iLTS can then verify this new ability and someone must recognize it as theirs. Ideally, this would clear two people for me: ChopBam for copying and blocking somone, as well as whoever's ability was revealed. These two could not have committed the kill C) ChopBam has told the complete truth and so suspicion must be shifted to iLTS for wanting the ChopBam lynch so badly, going as far to attempt the ##inhale which would have either taken away the Warp Star or 1-Up (assuming the latter can even be stolen, as ChopBam stated not to be able to pass it). It should be noted also that iLTS has claimed to have forced ChopBam to pass the mask to himself, thus explaining the earlier statement in scenario A. Paranoia must add though, "What if the mask acted of its own and the mask itself chose to stay with ChopBam?" It was noted from Nodlied that you could feel that there's something with the mask. Were that the case, iLTS' claimed action of moving the mask absolves him of the NK since he was busy with forcing ChopBam's hand. However, evidence may indicate otherwise. After all, iLTS moved quickly to dispel speculation of the mask's movement. Choosing where the mask goes could be the biggest lie we have believed.
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Agreed. We still have plenty of time in the day to do right.
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I'll leave him to explain himself on this one. The idea of "If ChopBam were town who would be scum etc" came up before he took off.
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We won't know until the end then, won't we?
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Have I asked him? No, though through our discussion he sees ChopBam as 100% scum so I can rightly assume he wants the 1-up to effectively be able to lynch him.
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Every case is worth a revisit, I can agree to that. Let's assume a complete 180 of my attack and I gained 100% confidence in you. What are your thoughts on Cat5 and Louis then?