Jeod

I'm heavy considering the possibility that fully repairing the Chronosphere (thus bringing it from 'damaged' to 'fully operational') is our winning ticket. There hasn't been another nightkill. We can be 95% sure that the Chrono Vortex spawned because Nodlied was a damaged chronosphere that was shot (and he might have been lynchable). An Engineer repairing him during the night phase would almost certainly bring him back to full health, and Nodlied wouldn't be able to do anything until the next night. We would have one day where we could shoot him to finish him off, regardless of whether he becomes fully repaired. I want some thoughts on this. Does it sound feasible? If we lynch either KY or Moonsense, we lose our opportunity to test this, since one of them needs to be an Engineer and the other a Sniper to guarantee a good shot.

I think it's been established that my 'scummy behavior' is part of my personality. It comes with the logical analysis mindset, can't help it. I'm also working off of the angle that the Vortex is our enemy and not a final scum, in addition to there being a final living scum player. That makes scummy behavior even more prevalent especially since I seem to be the only one considering the possibility right now. Besides, you're a suspect--obviously shooting me and lynching Moony is out of the question. Don't pull a Moonsense and fire. You're the only gun we have left, and if we decide that repairing the chronosphere and shooting it again is what we need to do, we need you. Moonsense would have to become the engineer.

The Vortx zapped FRAYDO's grave. I don't think that's simple flavor. FRAYDO was the first to die, so this may be a way of knowing the timer. In order, we have FRAYDO, Isaac, Mojoman, ChopBam, and Nodlied. It will be a while before it reaches us, which is good. I'm still thinking that Moonsense or Killing_You could be the remaining scum, if there are remaining scum. Moonsense also seemed to know that KY would scout him last night. If we cannot agree on either of these two, then there's a weird crazy third option. I can't find the post, but I recall someone asking if buildings were capturable. What if someone grabs an Engineer and brings Nodlied back to the game? We still have no nightkill so it's okay at least for one day. We can shoot him if he isn't capturable, and we might find out if the Vortex is reversible. It would be really good for us if the Engineer role in this game actually has a capture description; I don't think anyone has tried it yet. If he isn't capturable, it could be possible that bringing him back will cause him to return as a full, undamaged chronosphere, which we can then shoot and kill without fear of a Vortex, assuming the damaged part is what caused the Vortex.

I'm totally fine with your vote and I find it fair too.Although as I've said, I posted that long wall of text without reading Verti's day opener post (except for the part that says noone was killed. If he stated I was dead I wouldn't have posted, obviously)KY please confirm that you watched me and saw nothing. That should clear me for tonight at least. I never cleared this up before. I was hoping for a barracks training and becoming an Attack Dog to sniff everyone night by night.This would have been good for everyone since every day as I say what I know and the target confirming he was visited and confirming what I say, it's clearing everyone slowly. (and I could bite too to prove my dog role) Watching you clears nothing since there was no nightkill. It clears me because if I am an Allied base defense he would be dead. I'm assuming that Allied base defenses, if they existed, would work like the Flame Tower expect kill Soviets when visited. The Attack Dog request is valid, since it's a role unique to Soviets. Allied infantry shouldn't/wouldn't be able to select it. However, we're running out of time. We should try to solve the puzzle today if possible.

On a 15-minute break. Given Moonsense' actions directly after the day began, I'm going to vote him pending more information on night actions others took. ##vote Moonsense715

Next time hold your damn horses before you go shooting guns around. Here's my post. I won't be able to check up on things for a good 5 hours or so. Don with it what you will, and I'll follow up later. No pistol whipping! The Facts Category 5 Hurricane Soviet War Factory. Proven a building by lynch failure and is cleared through ChopBam, who was chronoshifted by Nodlied. Chaos Knight Soviet Barracks. Role proven by sending class-changing packages to Nodlied, ChopBam, and Killing_You. All have verified. Unknown if Allied Infantry are capable of switching roles via his power. Killing You Infantry. Began as a “Shock Trooper”. Claims to have paralyzed Mojoman during N2, preventing further Visceroid infection. Shot used on Category5. Is now a Sniper. Shot used on Nodlied. It is possible for him to be aligned with the Allies. Moonsense715 Unverified infantry. Did not prove his ability to shoot due to majority vote to lynch Category5 instead. Rifle Soldier claim can also fit RPG Trooper, Medic, Rocket Soldier, and APC. Asked for a class-changing package from Chaos_Knight for N4. Jeod Soviet Flame Tower. Proven a building by lynch failure. Semi-cleared through shooting at Mojoman. Theories Category 5 Hurricane Clear. Cannot be scum. Chaos Knight Clear. Cannot be scum. Killing You May have been a Rocket Soldier, which fits due to the Vehicle Destroyer ability and ChopBam being a vehicle, as well as Category5 churning out armor. If it is possible for Allies to switch classes due to Chaos_Knight, Allied Infantry might only be able to pick mirroring roles such as Sniper, RPG/Rocket Soldier, Rifle Soldier, and Engineer. Made a sudden switch into “lawyer-mode” after Nodlied’s death. Moonsense715 Could be the reason there were no nightkills. Eager to shoot his gun, said he “had other plans” for N4. May have wanted to switch class for more powerful gun like the Sniper in order to combat cleared buildings. Could also prove himself by switching to the Attack Dog class and using ##Bite, as that role is Soviet-exclusive. Jeod It’s bad enough that there was one scum building role. Two would be suicide for scum. Since buildings cannot visit, they cannot make nightkills. I spent my gun on shooting Mojoman instead of saving it for potential Soviet buildings like Flame Tower (because I am one). Also, if I were a base defense, I would have killed Killing_You assuming he scouted me. Crazy Theory Chrono Vortex Reference: http://cnc.wikia.com/wiki/Chrono_vortex Nodlied’s death flavor text doesn’t confirm for us whether there are more Allies to deal with. It is possible that the Visceroids were meant to be the challenge, with the Allied Chronosphere as the sole superweapon the scum have to try to win with. As a result, it could be that scum’s win condition is to simply wipe out the Soviets, even if the Chronosphere dies in the process (like a self-destruct). A Chrono Vortex might be the final assault on our outpost. A Vortex moves slowly and has a short range, and deals damage every time it takes a shot. A Vortex’s lifetime is variable (more RNGesus?) and it is possible to force a Vortex to collapse by feeding it some units. There is also a moderate chance that some units destroyed by a Vortex will reappear.

You, sir, need to calm down. Killing_You was a Sniper. If he scouted me, and I was an Allied base defense, he would have died. Due to technical reasons I cannot post my analysis yet (formatting issues on tablet), so I'll get on that right after my shift if I'm still alive. <edited>

Meta post: I will not be here for hammer due to work, and due to after-work events, I will not be here directly after my shift. I will try to be online and participating at 11:30PM EST at the earliest. I do have an analysis, so I may be able to post that, but I cannot actively participate in new events such as whatever happens during the night or new day posts until I return later.

Mine works just fine and I'm on Windows 10 64-bit. Did you download using the launcher or the torrent? The launcher kept giving me errors so I installed via the torrent.

Awesome. BF2142 is my favorite Battlefield game.

Even though it was a vote, the same point matters. You really wanted to shoot Nodlied, but you didn't want to shoot Cat5. I wonder if the only reason you don't want to shoot now is because it will put you on the chopping block. Anyway, Cat5 is proven a building and is pretty much clear. I see no way that ChopBam can get a heavy tank from anyone other than him, and Allied War Factories cannot produce heavy tanks.

Why do you think I was pushing for Cat5 to be shot? Moonsense chose not to, thus we did not see his actual role. If he is scum his gun might have a higher chance of killing, and he's on the target list if Cat5 flips town.

You cooperate tomorrow and shoot whoever we think is scum. Although if we decide to lynch you, there's not much to cooperate on.

Mafia edit: I'm doing my math wrong.

##vote Category 5 Hurricane That's the hammer. I say no--we don't know if you're town or scum and if you can change your role to Sniper then we're done if there's a night kill.

Good, then don't. Neither Moonsense nor Killing_You can be considered clear infantry. -It was never proven whether Killing_You was a shock trooper. It's possible he was an Allied Rocket Soldier, and an Allied Sniper. -Moonsense is suspicious for obvious reasons, like if Cat5 flips town.

Are you able to take no action tonight, or do you have to give out class invitations?

If someone doubleposts, then their posts get merged. It happens quite often.

We proved just now that Allies can be unlynchable buildings. Cat5 voted for getting lynched KY voted for Cat5 to be lynched Chaos_Knight voted for Cat5 to be lynched Jeod voted for Cat5 to be shot 3v1 so far, any other additions? That's exactly why I voted him to be shot. There have been zero nightkills so far and one chronoshift.

Chaos_Knight, I still want to know if your role PM says you can grant class changes regardless of alignment. If Cat5 flips town, moonsense is the logical conclusion. I think he's cornered. But, if your role PM says you can grant class changes regardless of alignment, then we have another option.

Lynching Cat5 is a waste in my opinion, before shooting him. He would not offer to be lynched if he was the final scum unless he was a scum building, and he has said before that he does not want to be shot. But it is up to moonsense. Neither path hurts us.

If Cat5 wins by being lynched he'd have been successful a long time ago.

1) Lynch Category5. It is not LYLO, so there's no fear of the game ending due to night kill. This will ultimately prove whether Cat5 is a building. It will not prove his alignment. Sniper can scout someone. 2) Shoot Category5. This will confirm his alignment if the shot hits. Alignment confirmation will help us figure out the final scum if he is town. 2.1) If Category5 is shot and is scum, the game should be over. 2.2) If Category5 is shot and is town, then we need to choose who to lynch. Moonsense, please decide what you want to do within 30 minutes. Either option is safe for us at this point. He would have to be a third party, which is a very slim chance.

Nope. I think if anyone should be shot now it's Cat5. We're not in LYLO and he wants to have a no-lynch despite the apparent pending doom. We have two suspects logically--Killing_You and Moonsense. They would be easy to lynch. I bet something special happens to the final Allied role if the chronosphere dies. It's an important weapon, after all.

I am not voting to avoid a hammer before we can decide if it's worth using the second gun. Oh. SHIT. Okay. That I did not see. That's either an effect from the chronosphere (it was damaged after all) or we have a Weather Control Device on our hands.