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Cat5 has not been proven a building by lynch. If he isn't a building, he is scum. He wouldn't toss the game like that. Plus, that wouldn't explain ChopBam's heavy tank claim.
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The game didn't end. That means we still have an Allied player in the game or a third party. Killing_You shot and he's not a third party since he can switch classes via Chaos the Barracks. The only unclears we have are you and Cat5 from my point of view. Cat5's war factory claim fits the bill now that ChopBam's been chrono shifted and we know Nodlied was a chronosphere. Unless ChopBam is an Allied player who will come back the next day, you're the most likely scum in my eye. It doesn't add up. I'm going to have to do some reading on my break to try and match this up. Chaos_Knight, does your role say that any infantry role, regardless of alignment, accept and change their class? Neither for now. I will do my best to figure out what is happening during my break. We can certainly lynch Cat5 to make sure he is a building, and I agree it's the best course of action. If there is one scum left and they can nightkill, we are currently at five players with one (possibly two) clears. We don't need to worry about LYLO today. At the same time, it's 4-1. So we can use the gun and still be guaranteed to survive another night.
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Perfect. I'm on lunch in 30 minutes. I'll have an hour so I'll be participating. Moonsense, save your gun for now. We'll use it before the hammer, don't worry.
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This is the kind of stance I like to see in mafia games. Direct, in command, and logical. All valid points too. It's on Nodlied if he's town.
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I can agree with that. It almost seems like he's avoiding the discussion. Doesn't seem like the type to ignore a mafia game even if there's work going on.
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You mean solo scum player?
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Actually, I'm with Cat5 that moonsense is probably town due to the constant flow of questions.
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Well, I voted to wait, but if there's a majority that says we should shoot sooner, I won't argue. In that case, I'll cast my shoot vote now in case I can't be here later. ##vote shoot Nodlied
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Waiting allows for more content to be posted. For instance, Nodlied has not posted a rebuttal. Chaos_Knight has not yet posted a response to our discussion. With the risk of misfiring and potentially ending the game, it's more helpful and prudent to have as much content as possible before taking the shot. Aside from that, we know that people are busy. I am currently at work, Cat5 is at work, Chaos is probably at work, and Nodlied probably has internship stuff going on. Making shots now and causing important developments while most of us are busy is not nice and makes a delay in reactions as well, which changes how we react. Think: if given time to settle in and digest the information, there's less of an impact when we are able to post because we have been sitting on the information all day. Those instinctive reactionary posts are what I'm going for.
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I take it you're a rifle soldier, eh? Also, has anyone considered that due to the existence of the cult, there may be one scum player, and the visceroids simply didn't count on being exposed and destroyed as early as they were? It seems that's what he's claiming. It also doesn't appear that anything happened last night that would explain otherwise (like a Thief etc).
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There are 6.5 hours left in the day. Day ends at 6:00PM EST.
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Cast a ##vote shoot [playername]. I'm going to suggest we keep track of these and make the deadline in 4.5 hours (5:00PM EST). Verti, would it be okay if your macro kept track of those votes? If it's not easy to do, we can track them ourselves. Sorry, deadline in 5.5 hours (5:00PM EST).
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You're up first, then. Any objections to Killing_You shooting before Moonsense? (This is not a call to shoot yet, only a call to decide who shoots first)
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No disaster. It's just that there are five possible roles with that chance combination, Allies and Soviets included.
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Hold on...this might be crucial. Are you a rifle soldier, or an RPG soldier? There's also more to consider here than that though. It's four votes needed for hammer.
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That is exactly why I'm mulling it all over and not going "OMG SHOOT HIM NOW" If you're going to go on suggesting I'm a chrono legionnaire and have a one-time lynch proof ability, I don't mind being lynched again. However, that's not productive for us at the moment. Killing_You and Moonsense, can you both state the chances you have for your guns? Please include the chance for stuck weapon and the chance to miss the shot.
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Nice. Anyway, back to the question of shooting: hammer is at 6PM EST and it is now 11AM EST. We have approximately six hours before we need to make a decision. I say six because we should keep an hour for deliberation and reaction to whatever occurs by shooting. Also, my lunch break is at 5PM EST tonight, so I will be available. I'm still mulling over the potential consequences of shooting, so I'm refraining from casting a ##vote shoot for now. Also, we should decide who will fire the shot, and whether the second gun will be fired if the first misses.
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Cat5 doesn't have a vote penalty. Chaos did not vote yesterday and you are not allowed to vote yourself. In my case it was okay because I can't be lynched. I don't mind if I have a penalty. I'm assuming they will go away tomorrow, otherwise they could be manipulated by scum.
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There are still 7 hours to go before hammer. We have time.
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You don't have to trust me. I'm a proven building. It's already known by everyone that I won't be able to accept your invitation by default.
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By the way, Cat5, you will be able to make a vehicle tonight, right? Are you open to proving your role by choosing Killing_You or Moonsense? (I don't count Nodlied because he softed building, and if he isn't one he is definitely scum) Actually, scratch that. Choose me. I'll at least get the autodecline notification and know you made the attempt.
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Cat5, I am the only building who has been proven to be a building by a lynch. You and Nodlied have only claimed it. The only difference is that you were backed up by ChopBam and Nodlied is not backed by anyone and has not even claimed which building he is. I ask you this: what happens if Nodlied is a building? We may end up in a 3-2 situation tomorrow if Allies can indeed kill during the night now, and we have no other presentable leads. At least with today we can potentially uncover an Allied scum if we shoot. If a scum has a gun tomorrow and a nightkill happens, then the game may be over.
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This is correct. I had a brain fart.
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I was given an option to either refill my weapon or train a new class. I chose the latter, because the Shockie has crap accuracy (except vs vehicles) and it's obvious that we're not dealing with just vehicles here. At this point, I'm flip-flopping between Nodlied and Jeod. Leaning towards Nodlied, as Jeod was unlynchable, and having unlynchable scum still makes little sense to me. So wait, isn't it possible that ChopBam got his heavy tank from Chaos via action swap? Were you given an option to choose your own class, or was it RNG'd? Mafia edit: Derp, nvm. Barracks doesn't give heavy tanks.
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He just explained it. Apparently, he must have the highest cumulative vote count among all the players in this game and has been tracking it. Only ChopBam has come close so far, which is why Cat5 does not need to vote every post. Sure doesn't sound like something a factory would have though.
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