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The purpose of his item could suddenly change context as well, because he might investigate a vanilla and detect the items they are carrying. I'm actually sorta starting to see how this could work.

Seeing that a vanilla scum might exist, given Jeod's three two items, that would seem to hamper the usefulness of an ability cop for town. Granted, seeing that my ability, if used correctly, is also a way to verify people as town, could be an ok pairing of weak abilities.

Nightkills are often considered a faction action, and not listed as an ability. So, in the case that TheIrishman actually has an ability cop role, and he checked a theoretically vanilla scum Chopbam, that would give the same report as a vanilla town Chopbam.

Which item did you claim bypasses a block?

Could be a natural part of his role, or used just in case. If he has an item or ability to counter Louis's role, why save it for after killing her?

Which fits the result perfectly. Just saying he cannot be totally ruled out, when he's the only player who didn't really contribute to catching Jeod and didn't vote at all.

Ok, wow, this is not the direction I thought I was going to go today. But I need to sleep on this.

And Jeod said he attempted to pass one, and low and behold he has two items. He was never jailed, so it was passed. Is this what he was hiding?

I'm not sure I buy that FRAYDO is a real suspect. I mean I know I'm saying never entirely rule out anyone, but I think FRAYDO did the best case work, and is almost as clear town as Louis is. Though if there were actually three scum to start, not two, I think I could believe it.

Shade suggested Jeod had three items, but we were told he had two. Did Jeod actually have three items?

Yeah, I tried bitching at him at work to post more. He's busy being sociable or some boring bullshit.

In what world does a scum member trying to get himself lynched over a town player make sense? To distance himself from the scum member that he leaves alone? At the beginning of the game before anyone has died? It as least makes sense if TheIrishman is scum as well.

I always love your logic. He did it to avoid the causing the thing that he caused.

And if that really happened, then why did Jeod continue to say he was jailed?

Sure, but we know TheIrishman was blocked, and because of Louis being presumed scum in this scenario, he would be town and not lying. There would have to be an alternate explanation for this to fit. Still not impossible, but requires a second unclaimed jailor. This second unclaimed jailor would be presumably town as well, and probably should be viewing Louis with suspicion. No, I think the only way this works, is if Jeod was stopped from killing because of my swap, assumed he was actually blocked by Louis somehow, and suggested he be dumped for town cred.

I guess I was going to counter that you don't even know it was really an item, but I don't really want to dig in to whether Louis is killable or not.

How do you know it can only be used once?

You said that TheIrishman's item detects things that could be used for Shields? Like what may have happened with Louis?

I kinda washed over this claim of an item from TheIrishman because of how it couldn't be proven to exist. Let me take a closer look at it.

How do you know anything about what Chopbam can and can't do?

What makes you sure the extra item exists or that TheIrishman did what he said?

So you don't know what this does?

I have no idea what you are talking about with regards to this.

Why don't you tell me what they are, then?